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In 1992, Sinead O'Connor tore a picture of Pope John Paul II in half during a performance on SNL in protest against generations of abuse toward children within the Catholic church. (youtu.be)

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

And she was vilified for it. Ahead of her time.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

She said "Fight the real enemy" while tearing up the pic.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

She was ahead of her time and extremely strong. Doing the right thing was more important to her than money. RIP.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I remember that…

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ireland got proper fucked by the church it seems. There was a “Behind the bastards” episode about it. Highly recommended if you want to get mad

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Everywhere the Catholic church has ever been, it's consistently fucked everyone over. It is a leviathan of abuse and harmful politics.

[+] [email protected] -7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Then she joined a cult based around venerating a pedophile prophet.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

30 years later, after some very public mental health struggles. She was a humanitarian with a big heart and a lot of courage. Don't try a take away from a dead woman's accomplishments because of personal choices toward the end of her life.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's one description, but in context it's misleading. If we wanted to talk about Christianity or Judaism we could look at the Bible and find shocking things there as well. And maybe we should. But that's a totally different discussion from bad things that the Catholic Church did in the 1900s.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Jesus was a hippy, who whipped scammers at a temple. Mohommed raped a nine year old and was a warlord.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Exactly. You're trying to compare things that people probably did 1500+ years ago with things that happened in our lifetimes. There's no way to attain justice for actions that happened over a millennia ago, and it doesn't really make sense to try.

If you want to convince people that organized religion is shit, I think you have a lot of good ammunition on hand, including some of the things that you mentioned. I'm not sure you're going to turn people off to Islam by mentioning that Muhammad was a warlord, though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

They still worship him, hell they still add "Peace be unto him" after his name, a man who ordered murders.

[+] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You literally started the whatsboutism in your original comment there buddy lol

[+] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All religions are cults.

By the way are you counting all the different sects as a singular group? In some places the cultists would kill you for that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

islam?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Blocked my first user on Lemmy!