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Interested in getting a feel for what people may be likely to do IF reddit reverses their decision regarding API access, or reduces access fees to a reasonable level and 3rd party apps remain sustainable.

While I know the chances of this are extreeeemely slim, until 1st July there is an ever so slight chance this could still happen.

From my perspective, the community harm is done, and those who have left prior to July 1 have left due to principles, not because their app stopped working. As such, I'd be inclined to think most of those migrators would stay here in the fediverse.

But would we see a mass exodus back to reddit if the changes were undone? It's easy to say no, but if it went back to operations as relatively normal, it may be easy to justify going back for some users.

I'd like to think I wouldn't go back. I've deleted content and account from reddit. I'll be happy here so long as there is enough userbase for some discussion.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I'm new enough to not have experienced old.reddit so most of my experiences are from the new interface on computer. With that said, the new reddit is crap.

  1. It is sooooo slow. My computer isn't lacking by any means, but infinity on my old pixel phone is still much faster. I don't understand how this is even possible.

  2. The comment box is broken. I can't tell how many times the comment box malfunctioned either in formatting or in other ways after I copy pasted text into it. If copying text makes things buggy, then something is wrong. Not to mention that less frequently, I've clicked on submit after writing a long post just to have it vanish into thin air.

  3. I'm with the moderators for the API issue, but my experiences with moderation there wasn't the best. Inconsistency between different mods, etc. That is a thankless job for sure, and the same problems could come up here or lemmy or anywhere else as the communities grow, but here's hoping that we learn from past mistakes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The comment box is broken. I can't tell how many times the comment box malfunctioned either in formatting or in other ways after I copy pasted text into it. If copying text makes things buggy, then something is wrong.

This annoyed me to no end. I often just turned off the fancy pants editor.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

In my case? Nothing. They thoroughly burned that bridge. They would have to rebuild it, and merely returning to the status quo after showing their hand isn't enough.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I actually ceased interacting on Reddit personally some time ago, and was just a lurker, using Relay to stay up to date with tech news. This was the last straw to remove the last vestiges of Reddit from my life. I've made a habit of reading HN and subscribing to RSS feeds, so Reddit was redundant anyways.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Along with most of the people here, the damage has been done in my opinion. I'd probably check in on Reddit more often, but refuse to be invested there as I was before.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I think I would be happy reading stuff on Reddit again but apart from that, my participation is over.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I was always all-in on the fediverse. Reddit died a long time ago for me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The way they handle made me sick. Reddit will never be the same again for me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Good question. I only just created an account, but I don't know if I'd go back. I used sync for reddit (apparently being ported for lemmy) so if I can't keep using that I wouldn't browse reddit on my mobile.

I just hope some of the gaming communities and their users migrate over as well a lot of the tech support and branded subreddits - googling "X vacuum issue reddit" or "dragon scale farming botw reddit" will be hard to transition from. I don't think this will happen overnight.

Likewise, I think there needs to be a better way of handling duplicated federated instances as I can see this being annoying / a confusing turn off for new users.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I’ll live here, but I might poke into Reddit for the more obscure communities that can’t really survive a migration. Reddit knows what it wants and even if it fails this time, they’ll get sly with it and push more and more until they’re satisfied.

The biggest news is going to make it over here at this point anyway.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I didn't delete my reddit account so I still have the possibility to easily return but I don't think I will unless the community here in the Threadiverse dies down or something which I don't think will happen.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Nice try spez, I'm not telling you what my plans are

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The same thing I did when Wotc tried to invalidate the ogl, walk away from any future support of their products and find better options, which is why I'm here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Once bitten*, twice shy.

*Ok, many times bitten, but that doesn't roll off the tonge as well.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I honestly would go back to reddit for the nitch communities that will have a hard time re building e.g titanfall, beans in things, ect. But this will definitely be my new home and I would try and push for those communities to migrate here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Personally, I'm loving Lemmy for what it is and I'm here for the long haul whether or not I continue to scroll Reddit on occasion.

If they roll back, it will be temporary until they fix their app. But this is happening. Either way. If they roll back and start this mess all over again then Lemmy will get a fresh influx of users in a few months which would be fantastic as it will give the communities time to settle in and apps to develop before then. (Sync has already announced it will be developing for Lemmy going forward). If they don't roll back, then Lemmy will get a second boost in a few weeks and the developer of Sync can continue uninterrupted.

Either way its a win for Lemmy, but I imagine at this point Reddit's best move is to stick to their guns and become what they want to become. Good for them. I don't really care .

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'll probably go back from time to time to:

  1. Demonstrate that them reversing course wasn't for naught
  2. Steal content to post here to help foster communities/magazines until the next idiotic decision that drives users away

Ultimately, this is my new home. But I'm not against swiping content to furnish it with.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

After Steve's behavior and treatment of the mods and developers, I wouldn't go back if they paid me. Even in the best case scenarios, they can't undo the damage that's already been done.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I've already deleted (nuked) my reddit account. I wouldn't go back, I was so sick of the tiktok videos and endless reposts.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I've already moved on, period.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I deleted my account on Reddit because their handling of the situation didn’t really inspire confidence in the site’s future 🤷‍♂️I won’t be going back regardless.

Fediverse is a neat network model of integration of communities in the same way that integration happens in real life.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Can Reddit also un-slander the 3pa devs?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

oh that boat has so sailed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

my return to Reddit has become conditional on spez being completely outed from any position at the company

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

why drag up the past .. the cesspool that is reddit cannot be trusted ever again and I for one will not be returning. fuck u/spez

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'm a user, not a customer. The changes only affect me because I use a piece of software. Regardless of what the company chooses to do, I'm not going to change that. I'll use the site, block the ads & scripts, and continue as normal.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The real win is having a viable place that people can go instead of Reddit, to force Reddit to compete and improve itself in general. (or have a place people can go if Reddit ultimately shuts down)

To that end, I would stay right here, and then someday if Reddit improves enough, maybe consider using both.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Then I'll use it when it pops up on duckduckgo when I'm looking for troubleshooting or stuff. Fediverse is now my procrastination hub.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Imagine we're at the point where the Titanic has split in two, and the remaining portion is held afloat by trapped air. You can patch the hole made by the iceberg, but it probably won't change my plans too much.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Honestly, I would probably be using both, in that case. The Threadiverse feels a lot like the early days of Reddit and I would love to be part of it and see it grow up. Assuming this keeps expanding, it's too late for me to go back to exclusively using Reddit at this point. Giga brain Mr. Huffman made sure of that.

However, there are numerous great communities at Reddit that haven't found a place here yet. Especially many of the smaller subs that were already very niche as it is, and that one probably won't not find anywhere else anytime soon.

I'm already regularly using multiple different sites as it is. Both larger international ones, as well as smaller local blogs and forums. I don't personally see an issue by itself to keep both Reddit and Kbin on that list.

Hopefully, we will see entirely new communities pop up and grow in the Threadiverse. That is, communities that aren't just different flavours of "Reddit sucks". Not saying it's not entertaining, but I think we need to broaden the scope a bit going forward. :)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I might end up on Reddit when googling for answers but I wouldn't go back full time. It has been very clear from the past few days that spez and co are not to be trusted. I like kbin a lot, I feel adults are having actual mature conversations instead of the insult matches that happen on Reddit. And I have contributed here more than I have in the 10 years of using Reddit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Continue to use kbin.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

There are two communities that I'll stay on Reddit for, but my interest even in them is dying (and was dying even before this spez idiocy).

As for the other 80% of my participation on forums, I have liked what I'm seeing on the Reddit alternatives and I am likely going to get my cup filled there. So, for me, this whole shitshow has been a win and not a loss.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'm just done with reddit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

the damage is done, why support a company that treats their userbase so disrespectfully?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Im staying away from Reddit, the fediverse is really intriguing and I want to see it succeed im shredding my Reddit account on the 30th or after the reports of Reddit undeleting accounts dies down I just want to be able to keep a pic of the profile page for memory maybe post some sort of "Snoo" head count somewhere for people to show the accounts that got deleted during the migration

Edit: dont enjoy the term snoo but it gets a point across just like death by snoo snoo

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Reddit is dead to me and my account is long gone. Everything I lost from reddit over the years is here. No need to go back.

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