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[–] [email protected] 89 points 10 months ago (2 children)

No, stupidity is a growing global threat. Measles is just riding shotgun.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

I don't disagree with you, but I'm going to take it a step further and say selfishness is the root cause. It's not that people are too stupid to understand, it's that they are too selfish to care to learn. You could call that a form of stupidity, but there are plenty of intelligent, educated people who fully understand the validity of the threat and still don't give a fuck because they don't think it personally affects them.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You can be smart in one area and brain dead dumb in others. I would absolutely call it both selfishness and stupidity.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Sure, but a stupid person can act in a way that isn't selfish and help other people. A selfish person who is willing to harm others for personal gain, whether smart or stupid, is a problem for society. Selfish stupid people are really the worst because they will cut the branch we're sharing without realizing that they have just as much to lose.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'd say to specify the type of selfishness as entitlement.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

I call it conservativism, which is just narcissism wrapped in a flag.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago
[–] [email protected] 53 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So disappointed in the human race RN...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Same. If I had some savings I'd go live in the bush.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Humans have such shitty shitty memories. Unless something happened last week it's basically unknowable.... Nazi? Never heard of it. Preventable diseases? Fuck if I know.

Unless it's hurting them RIGHT NOW it basically never happened for most morons.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well done Andrew Wakefield, you colossal fucking twat.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

The cunt that started the anti-vaxx movement so he could push his own version of the vaccine, because money, of course.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Globally and in the US, vaccination rates against measles—via the measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine (MMR)—have fallen in recent years due to pandemic-related health care disruption and vaccine hesitancy fueled by misinformation.

It's beyond sad, but the only way out seems to be natural selection of vaccinated people at this point. There's literally no cure for (children of) antivaxxers who won't listen to experts.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Unfortunately that's not how it works. Once herd immunity is broken, shit gets bad.

There are probably some great visualisations of this on youtube that can show the maths of this far more eloquently than I can explain it, but if you take a look at that you'll probably think "oh fuck."

Not only can many not have vaccines due to allergies or it interfering with other medications/conditions, but they can also catch diseases before they get theirs, they can miss boosters accidentally, and vaccines aren't 100% effective.

Everybody loses from this. Not just the kids of anti-science parents.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

Yep, I caught all three, Measles, Mumps, and Rubella, before I was old enough to get the vaccine.

This was because the MMR vaccine had a 5% failure rate back then and I spent a lot of time in hospitals as an infant due to a birth defect.

I caught chicken pox around the same time as well.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Unfortunately it’s not only kids of anti vax people who will be susceptible to these diseases. Some kids are not vaccinated because of medical reasons and for some kids the vaccination didn’t make them immune. Plus kids who haven’t gotten their jabs yet, because they are too young, will be put at great risk because herd immunity is failing.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Pretty terrifying as a parent of an 11 month old right now. You don't get the MMR shots until 12 months.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Have a 9 month old and am also concerned. At least I am on maternity leave until September and so he's not in daycare yet.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

That is a huge plus. Sounds like an incredible maternity leave policy!

My wifes job gave her tons of flexibility and we are both remote workers at this point (for the most part I go in occasionally) so we are incredibly fortunate to not have to deal with daycare either.

The other silver lining is that it does seem to be mainly people and children that went to known hotspots. The article talks about khazikstan. So I guess we'll avoid international airports for the next few months!