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Very weird that I am so old and have literally never heard this mentioned in a TV show or book or movie or anything.

In four out of five states, if you go to prison, you are literally paying for the time you spend there.

As you can guess, this results in crippling debt as soon as you're released.

The county gets back a fraction of what they hold over your head the rest of your life until you commit suicide(or die naturally and peacefully with the sword of damocles hanging over your head).

$20-$80 a day according to Rutgers.

Counties apparently sue people and employ wage garnishment to get back the money that majority of people obviously cannot pay back.

https://www.rutgers.edu/news/states-unfairly-burdening-incarcerated-people-pay-stay-fees

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[–] [email protected] 91 points 6 months ago (38 children)

This is some serious "keep hitting yourself" material. It's not like you can decide to not be incarcerated. $7300-$29200 of debt per year spent in prison. Man, that is some vicious shit. Nobody will be able to convince me that this is not specifically designed to keep people down forever.

[–] [email protected] 72 points 6 months ago (10 children)

Exactly. Recidivism makes a lot more sense now.

Imagine if you had $30,000 of debt right after you get out of jail with zero contacts and social support.

Yeah of course you're going to go back to what you were doing before, you have no other options that you're aware of.

Fuck that system.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You also have a record which makes getting hired even more difficult.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

“Here’s the opposite of a college degree for the same price”

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

A lot of the education programs in prison are equally vile. They have people learn a few skills or trades, then when they get out they learn it’s impossible to get a state license in that trade because they are felons.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

My wife knows a guy who learned programming in prison. He was apparently extremely lucky in which one he was sent to. And I don’t mean like “was fortunate for how he was charged” no he got sent to the most recent “prison reform” prison. They never close or update the old ones, just use prison reform as a justification to build a new one.

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