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Really? The Hippocratic Oath originally included "I will not use the knife". A surgeon is very limited without a knife.
Edit: I read the thing and it basically says that doctors and surgeons are separate professions: doctors MUST take the oath while surgeons MUST NOT; this also prevents surgeons from obtaining medical knowledge unless they are a son (or presumably a daughter) of a doctor.
And now I have a short story brewing in my head about a society that has men as doctors and women as surgeons. Except for our protagonist who wants to do both. And that's just clearly not okay with anyone else. Thanks.
Genderfluid protagonist. Checkmate, atheists.
They'd have to crossdress at least if I'm having them sneak into classes.
I have a short story too (see below the oath quote). It does not include women because the oath text does not either. You can rewrite it to include gender mechanics (making the patient a woman, perhaps) but it's probably not worth the effort. For starters, appendoctomy hadn't been invented back then.
“Could I fuck a female doctor instead?”
“To my knowledge, there aren’t any in all of Pelopones. There is quite a selection of gay men, though. A nearby one is crossdressing, actually.”
That's hilarious. Can't do it during office hours!
But yeah I tend to latch onto much smaller parts. So I'll probably run with the gender divide in a steam punk society where surgeon's and doctor's knowledge bases overlaps something like 80%. It's that last 20% they guard so fiercely. I think it'll start somewhere slightly funny like the protagonist is a student who realizes that doctor classes and surgeon classes aren't on the same days, so why not attend both?
Only for kidney stones, which frankly were an extremely specialized surgery. They cut from the prenium to locate the blockage.
You read it wrong. I will include all of it for context, and add commentary. Third paragraph is relevant.
Religious preamble as standard for its time
Medical knowledge should be free! You hear that, America?
Also, it's not “first do no harm”, it's “first respect your teacher”.
See, no doctors with knife! You can get another “craftsman” to operate on you but better make sure he is the son of a doctor, because all others have never received medical training (see end of second paragraph) or taken this no-knife oath.
Do no harm, also don't rape and keep secrets. All good...
Wait! "outside my profession in my intercourse with men”
Every male MD is gay, confirmed
Well, this is weird. Imagine you come to an Ancient Greek doctor with abdominal pain...
“One of your intestines went naughty and needs to be removed.”
“Can you do it?”
“No way, I’m a doctor, not a surgeon. Hekates the butcher could help you. He's great with the knife but I don't think he can tell the intestines apart.”
“What happens if he gets it wrong?”
“You die.”
“Are you sure it's that intestine?”
“Most likely. It will not hurt to remove, anyway. The appendix is nothing but a troublemaker.”
“It doesn't hurt?”
“The procedure certainly DOES hurt but it's better than what you'd be going through without it.”
“Can you at least instruct Hekates?”
“No, we doctors cannot divulge the secrets of our craft, except to our children. The only doctor I know has a son is 3 city-states away, and the son is terrible at cutting.”
“Can you adopt my son and teach him about the appendix? I could then have him instruct Hekates.”
“I’ll gladly become a stepfather if you let me fuck you...”
“I’m not gay but I guess it's better than dying...”
“Deal. Meet me after my office hours, I cannot have intercourse with men on the job.”
Not all intercourse is sexual intercourse.