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[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m happy to explain to you why you’re wrong to be anti-choice

I'm open to hearing your argument, but as you can imagine, as a conservative on lemmy/reddit I've heard every argument, and it's made me more refined in my belief, and more able to argue my belief well.

Don’t pretend like conservatives don’t love to shit talk about liberals.

I didn't. but generally no, I don't see conservatives talk trash about liberals, nor liberals conservatives. I see Republicans and Democrats talk trash, but I don't equate them to conservatives and liberals.

If you have something you want to talk about, then talk.

Okay. I'm pro-life, you calling me anti-choice is an absurd mischaracterization of my argument, and you know it. You just try to name call instead of actually put forward your position. If you have a good argument, you don't need to resort to such childish and rude comments.

Additionally, my argument is, just because I'm pro life doesn't mean I want to enslave women.

If you'd like to discuss either of these in good faith, and without being a dick, I'm down.

[–] hotdaniel 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I called you anti-choice because it's accurate. It would be inaccurate to call you pro-life when we do not agree, yet I myself am in favor of life and living. It misrepresents my position when I agree to call you pro-life. It gives the impression that I am not pro-life because I am opposed to your position. So, I choose to label you accurately. If I'm pro-choice, that makes you anti-choice. If I'm pro-autonomy, you're anti-autonomy. Which do you prefer?

Additionally, my argument is, just because I'm pro life doesn't mean I want to enslave women.

That's not an argument. Also, it doesn't matter about your feelings about whether your actions are good or not. What matters is the impact it has, in reality. In reality, your positions have the effect of harming women. It matters not at all, that you want to pat yourself for believing you don't want to enslave women. You don't have to believe you are enslaving women to do harm. You just have to actually enslave them, which, in effect, you are supporting.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I called you anti-choice because it’s accurate

It's more accurate to call me 'pro-baby lives,' which would make you 'anti-baby lives' which is a bold stance. If you want to play dumb games like that instead of civilly discussing, I'm fine with that. But I won't converse with someone that continues to be this uncivil and rude.

[–] hotdaniel 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You don't civily discuss. I've asked you to tell me what is wrong with the argument from bodily autonomy. You will not. I've had, I think, 4 replies with you since then. Just like I thought, just like the other conservatives, you will not discuss. You have no discussion. You have no argument. Your tactics are manipulation and misdirection. That's why you have words and words to say about every little tangential topic, but nothing to say about bodily autonomy.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You don’t civily discuss.

Okay, then we don't need to discuss if you feel that way.

[–] hotdaniel 0 points 1 year ago

Pro-lifers don't discuss. They rally the troops. It's mindless, because if they had to think about their position, they couldn't hold it.