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[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 months ago (1 children)

In acamedia you usually get your name on most papers where you help a bit. And if you're the boss, you get your name on papers without even helping but perhaps supplying space, material, budget.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

I've been in academia. My field required a "significant intellectual contribution" to the research and the writing, so no putting your name on papers if you just supplied space/material/budget. You can get an acknowledgement for that, not an authorship credit.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

And which reviewer or publishers verifies how "significant" a contribution is beyond seeing some initials matched with tags like "visualization" or "experimental design"? That's right, nobody. It's not even remotely traceable who did what if you're a reviewer.

Academia is full of fraud and people trying to secure their share of credit because in academia it's all about names, as the twitter exchange above illustrates so profoundly. And the other driver for the sad state of academia is of course having the quantity of published papers as the most important criterion for academic success. The more papers, the more citations, the bigger your name will become. It determines your chances of getting funding and therefore your career. If you want to make a career in science you have little options but to comply with this system.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's kind of the point I was making.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Sorry, my irony detector must be malfunctioning.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Academia is full of fraud

Everything, everywhere is corrupt.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

Everything Everywhere All Corrupt

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

This definitely varies by field, lab, university.