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What sense does it make to have to use two or three different UIs to configure your network. Some stuff can get done under Settings > Networking, others under
nm-connection-editor...And to be fair NetworkManager's networking implementation is a convoluted unreliable mess that doesn't support half of
systemd-networkdoptions and is incapable of handling changes to interfaces and links gracefully.Even the classic Window network interfaces properties window is more consistent than what GNOME and NetworkManager offer.
NetworkManager is not the cause for having multiple UIs, that is just one of the side effects of GNOME going for the minimalistic approach. It's never going to have all settings in their simple UI because that's out of the scope for the GNOME project.
If having advanced network settings in a single UI is important to you, use KDE. It has wifi, static IPv4/IPv6, VLANs, routes, bridges, VPN and much more all in one interface.
Yes, but it is the cause for having issues jumping between networks and never having proper IPv6 support.
Everything is "out of scope" with GNOME these days it seems. They talk a lot about having a vision but then they aren't able to get a cohesive desktop experience going.
nm-connection-editorvs settings is as bad as it gets.What issues are you having? I have no issues with switching between networks and using IPv6 on Fedora KDE.
The only thing I ever noticed was that its stubborn with releasing its DHCP IP addresses and there is no refresh button in KDE. Disabling and enabling again usually solves that, although not sure if that is on NetworkManager or dhclient.
It is, that's why it is not a suitable DE for people that need more than the basics. I wish they were better with adding advanced features but they are not and probably never will be.
KDE might not be as pretty and flashy but it is pretty extensive when it comes to settings and fast with implementing new features.
I've IPv6 routes that say around after leaving a network and it takes more than it should to switch between VLANs. Wired 802.1X seems to be a pain sometimes as well, no ideia why but it says everything is connected and I get an IP however can't ping anything until I restart the connection.
Yeah, we lack a middle ground DE that actually is properly designed and has the advanced features. I don't get the GNOME team, having features doesn't hurt their vision as long as you design things properly - something that they can do. Most of the time it sounds like they simply don't want to implement things so they hide behind excuses.