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Apple is bringing RCS to the iPhone in iOS 18 | The new standard will replace SMS as the default communication protocol between Android and iOS devices (www.theverge.com)

submitted 6 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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The long-awaited day is here: Apple has announced that its Messages app will support RCS in iOS 18. The move comes after years of taunting, cajoling, and finally, some regulatory scrutiny from the EU.

Right now, when people on iOS and Android message each other, the service falls back to SMS — photos and videos are sent at a lower quality, messages are shortened, and importantly, conversations are not end-to-end encrypted like they are in iMessage. Messages from Android phones show up as green bubbles in iMessage chats and chaos ensues.

Apple’s announcement was likely an effort to appease EU regulators.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago (4 children)

RCS is the wrong standard to use though, as there isn't a single FOSS Android RCS client. They should support something like Matrix.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Yea, like that would ever in literally any possible incarnation of any possible existence where Apple is a thing happen. Totally.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

That wasn't what I was saying though. I was talking about what should happen, not what is likely to happen, and criticising the EU for pushing for the wrong thing.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

I mean, in the Steve Jobs Apple it might have.

Steve originally pushed for web apps to dominate on the emerging open web standards.

Apple used to care about the customer more than they do now (IMO).

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago

Matrix

😂 As an SMS/MMS/RCS replacement?? You're joking. Surely.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If you do anything as merely speak the name of anything FOSS in Apple headquarters, they throw you in a deep dark well in the middle of the campus and remove your name from the world of the living.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

Apple have a surprising amount of open-source software. The OS that MacOS and iOS are built on top of (Darwin) is open-source, as is its kernel (XNU). The engine used by Safari (Webkit, forked from KDE's KHTML) is open-source too.

It's not really traditional open-source, though. It does use an OSS license, but they don't really accept public contributions, nor do they track bugs publicly or have a public roadmap.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Is that functionally different from Android being Linux and chromium being open source?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

You can't easily run Darwin OS these days, unfortunately. Apple used to release an ISO you could install on a PC or Mac, but they stopped doing that a long time ago. These days, Apple release the bare minimum amount of code as required by its license, and it's just a pile of code without the build scripts required to actually build it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Let's not forget CUPS which is how everything that isn't windows prints.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That is interesting actually, but compared to other companies I'd not say that's significant. Specially because I suspect they switched to WebKit because they had no other choice 🤷‍♂️

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

Apple forked WebKit from KDE back in 2001. For all intents and purposes, they didn’t switch to it; they developed it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Signal would be more reasonable.