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@birdcannon , I think what you've discovered is that Graham McNeil just fucking sucks at writing. He has great ideas but his execution is crap.
I've read the main plotline (and main subplotlines) of the HH and the SoT and his books are by far the worst. Some people love his stuff, for example that godawful book Fulgrim , but I can't for the life of me understand why.
False Gods? The first signs of how boring his future books will be.
Fulgrim? Cool and superimportant plot point of the whole HH, so how it is even possible it's so boring?
Mechanicum? Cool story bro, too bad it's boring.
A Thousand Sons? It's one of his better works, but it's still the same author.
Vengeful Spirit? Again, cool ideas and a bit better than A Thousand Sons.
I would have read The Crimson King and The Fury of Magnus, but I mean, I have a limited time on this earth. Why spend it on this guys bad writing?
So, how do you read Graham McNeil? I discovered the most pleasant way of reading him is to lightly skim all the boring ass shit to get the gist of what he's getting at, indulge in the occasional good parts, rinse and repeat.
If you want the whole Horus Heresy you unfortuntately kind of have to deal with this guy.
I didn't look at any of the authors while reading the books, but while reading Thousand Sons (now finished) I was seriously wondering "does this author even like scifi/fantasy?" he has Magnus speaking like you'd imagine some uncaring Hollywood accounting suit would write while pumping out a minimum effort script to cash in on some familiar IP. Magnus and Ahriman alternate between moron and genius as the plot demands. Worst of all, as you said, it's just boring as hell until the end. Checked the author partway and saw he also wrote False Gods, "yep that makes sense." Horus is moron for plot in that too, with all the dialogue someone who doesn't like scifi/fantasy would write to make fun of it.
I wonder if TS is so fondly remembered just because the last 10% is actually good. The Sons coming together for a final stand despite the betrayal of the Emperor and their own primarch, that's all super interesting! If it started at the Council of Nykea chapter, TS would be a great novella.
Yup. I'm all with you!
This is a great take and I agree. I also quite liked the beginning, with the Space Wolves crashing their party and being assholes all around. Made for some nice drama! And another part I remember as being cool is the warp where Magnus is a big idiot and gets tricked by Tzeentch, resulting in the big badaboom.
As for the other books in the series, I followed this reading guide and these are the ones I read. Exclamation point beside the ones I thought were great.
Horus Heresy
The Siege of Terra