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A journalist shot by police during the 2020 Minneapolis unrest following the murder of George Floyd is dying from her injuries, friends say.

Linda Tirado was in Minneapolis from out of state covering the protests and rioting when police shot her in the face with a rubber bullet, also known as a "less-lethal" round. She suffered a traumatic brain injury and was blinded in one eye.

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 2 months ago (6 children)

I would have liked some more info on how the brain injury is slowly killing her. My perception of what a brain injury could be is clearly wrong because I have been under the impression that the brain is pretty sturdy as long as the initial injury doesn't kill you.

[–] [email protected] 88 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

She has a substack, and is a bit wavey around the details sometimes, but she writes about coming to terms with it.

https://lindatirado.substack.com/

The NPR article is also far more detailed.

https://www.npr.org/2024/06/21/nx-s1-5015030/linda-tirado-journalist-shot-police-2020-george-floyd-protests-hospice-care

[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Thank you. Early onset dementia seems about right. It also feels like something insurance companies will claim would have happened anyway.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Never mind insurance; I'm hoping a prosecutor will take on the odds at the murder trial!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

The defense will also claim that there is no way to prove that the dementia wouldn't have occured regardless and they would be technically correct. The thing that needs to happen is to remove rubber bullets from the police arsenal.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Very early onset as she's only 43-44 now ... four years ago when she was shot she was 39-40.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It also feels like something insurance companies will claim would have happened anyway.

Fascinating reasoning. As all mortal being eventually die (because living and dying are the same process), this would entail that no death is worth caring about, as all deaths 'would have happened anyway'.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

First of all, yes. The type of lawyer that work for insurance companies are the kind of person that would argue that everyone dies and a dead human has the same number of atom as an alive one.

My point is however a bit more human and practical. There are people that get dementia in their 40s without first having brain damage. There is no way of telling 100% if hers was a preexisting condition or not because most people don't do brain scans before being brain damaged and if the system can avoid paying the common man money they absolutely will.

Especially since the police has given thousands of people brain damage and concussions and paying everyone that gets dementia money would be very expensive so the justice system at large would not allow it.

[–] [email protected] 86 points 2 months ago (2 children)

TBI's can resonate as issues later on in life for anyone.

American Football players and even Rugby players have been known to get them or Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy (CTE) as the result of repeated mild TBIs occurring over months or years playing.

As another example, I was in a near fatal rollover accident as a child and developed partially complex seizures in the left temporal 22 years later as an adult from that incident.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

My neighbor has the same thing.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If he went to hospital by ambulance over the past few weeks for it, he probably is.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

I assume that your neighbor -is- your neighbor 😜.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I am so sorry for what you went through and that you still struggle with symptoms today.

I honestly read this as a near fatal Rollercoaster accident and I was struggling so hard because boy did I want to know more of what that meant, but how insensitive to ask!

I'm sorry it wasn't that. At least then you could avoid going on a roller-coaster ever again but it was and probably still is difficult being in or driving a car. I hope you're doing well!

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago

Rubber bullets are supposed to be skipped off the pavement in front of the people you're shooting at. This reduces their impact and is supposed to make the bullets "less lethal." These cops didn't do that. Her maiming was the result of a deliberately aimed shot from a rifle.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sure the brain may survive, but will the consciousness that you identify as you survive?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Consciousness is not even the wholly the same moment to moment, so you don't even need to focus on differences before and after brain damage / trauma to raise this question.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

the brain is pretty sturdy as long as the initial injury doesn't kill you.

As a nurse, I'm confused at that sentiment. How on earth did you get there?

If the brain is damaged, it rarely gets much better after that. Unless you have just one mild concussion, brain injuries tend to more likely getting worse over time and rarely better.

Your brain is not just a broken bone that heals back together after a few weeks.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

By not being a trained nurse. Being wrong is pretty easy, you just have to not know things.

My perception was that if you get something like a stroke, the initial damage is horrendous and that usually don't heal. Any improvement is the brain offloading the lost functions to other parts of the brain. But once the damage is done and doctors and nurses stopped the source of the damage, I figured the brain would just remain where it was.