this post was submitted on 22 Jun 2024
1231 points (97.5% liked)
Political Memes
5414 readers
4543 users here now
Welcome to politcal memes!
These are our rules:
Be civil
Jokes are okay, but don’t intentionally harass or disturb any member of our community. Sexism, racism and bigotry are not allowed. Good faith argumentation only. No posts discouraging people to vote or shaming people for voting.
No misinformation
Don’t post any intentional misinformation. When asked by mods, provide sources for any claims you make.
Posts should be memes
Random pictures do not qualify as memes. Relevance to politics is required.
No bots, spam or self-promotion
Follow instance rules, ask for your bot to be allowed on this community.
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
Take that one however far center or right you want to, the point is that's what he had to do to find votes (after successive Dem losses).
Campaign funding mostly. Which translated into votes.
At the end of the day, votes is what wins elections. He had to go to the center (or as the other guy thinks, the right) to find votes.
To find funding from oligarchs for campaigning in order to get votes.
Nothing has a single cause and condition.
Another way to look at it is that Clinton sold out. A third is that he was being pragmatic.
Either way moving to the center didn't win him votes with centrist voters as much as it allowed him to campaign effectively against an incumbent that was heavily backed by corporate finances.
It wasn't being centrist that won over voters in other words. It was being cenrist that won over oligarchs.
We're going to have to disagree.
I think it was to find voters. At the end of the election they count votes, not donations. If all these left wing ~~voters~~ people that I see on this platform were to actually vote, then wow that would have an effect. But instead they think protest 3rd party or protest no-voting works, when it doesn't. All these supposed informed, logical ~~voters~~ people that are just waiting in the wind for that left platform and then they'll vote. Donations don't sway these people, they want the big left platform, which won't appear because they don't show up and vote.
So what can voters do? Vote for the dems. If you want things to go left, then vote and give dems consistent and overwhelming victories.
I mean I'm voting for Biden Don't get me wrong. And I think protest voting is a petty act of rebellion that doesn't really help.
But I also think acting like your entitled to votes rather than needing to spend effort turning out your base, is also a wrong view.
I guess I'm saying both Hillary and protest voters caused what happened in 2016. As well as the DNC betting on an establishment candidate when the pulse of the country was obviously sick of that shit.
Entitled? They try to move a little bit left and they fucking lose. They aren't going to go further left lol. What's that definition of insanity? Doing the same thing and expecting different results lol. In this case it's doubling down and expecting different results - not going to happen. They're going to go to the center to get those votes.