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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Why does Communism require "true equality amongst its citizens?" What does that even mean, in practical terms?

Do you imagine a communist system that has social classes?

How would a group of people take advantage of this to form a "practical dictatorship?"

Castro, Zedong, Putin

Capitalism does not deploy the most efficient means of product delivery, but the most profitable...

You're arguing Communism on a philosophical level against capitalism on a practical level.

What of Marx have you read? Or any leftist theorist?

As I said, I'm not well read and unprepared for the higher level argument you are seeking here.

I can make some suggestions for reading material if you wish.

I appreciate your desire to educate, but I'm too busy being exploited by the current system to dive further into social philosophy. When you guys are ready to rise up I'll be there, but I won't be a part of the debate on which system we should implement going forward.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

Do you imagine a communist system that has classes of people?

If you are referring to the Marxian term, ie proletarians, bourgeois, etc. Of course not. Do you instead mean people must be paid equally, and there can be no management? Also of course not, Communism isn't a bunch of horizontal organization and equal pay.

Castro, Zedong, Putin

Putin is a Capitalist, so I am unsure of what you mean by including him here.

As for Mao and Castro, Mao lost power within the CPC over time and Castro retained power democratically, neither of which maintain your points. This appears to just be vibes.

You're arguing Communism on a philosophical level and capitalism on a practical level.

What on Earth does that mean? I am advocating for Communism on both practical and philosophical grounds, this is just gibberish.

As I said, I'm not well read and unprepared for the higher level argument you are seeking here.

I am trying to get to a base level of understanding so we can have a conversation. I wouldn't even call it an argument, I am just trying to get you to understand your own preconceptions.

I appreciate your desire to educate, but I'm too busy being exploited by the current system to dive further into social philosophy. When you guys are ready to rise up I'll be there, but I won't be a part of the debate on which system we should implement going forward.

Revolution doesn't happen just because people vibe it into existence, it's a consequence of deteriorating Material Conditions. If you don't have time to read Marx, why do you have time to discuss Marxism online with strangers? This entire convo would have been better spent comprehending the bigger picture of Marxism.