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Yes, it is a complete trainwreck.
And only 51% of people who voted, around 25% of the population, were in favour so it's unsurprising that you can find large sections at this point who would be unhappy with the situation. It's not necessarily Bregret, we didn't want it in the first place.
You have to also remember that Brexit was a cross party matter. Tories gonna Tory with their made up numbers, but also the head of the Labour party was pro-Brexit since the unfettered access to the Labour market weakened the unions positions. It was only in the later stages that he rather weakly positioned himself as pro-EU because better a weakened position with the EU than a weakened position without the EU to back you up if you have a Tory government.
NHS gutting is due to austerity and unregulated privatisation rather than Brexit. I'm not aware of anyone who believed the Boris bus, mostly because I don't know of anyone who believed a word of what he said. Conservatives who did vote Boris mostly appear to have liked the way he "owned the libs".
Maybe. But only if you take a single point and follow it exponentially without implementing anything else.
The pound is vastly overvalued and needs to be brought down. That would improve exports and the value of the work, potentially allowing people to do these jobs without it requiring them to live in poverty. Also, perhaps these aren't jobs that should exist at this point? We also don't have people lighting the lamps in London, and pressing the bellows by hand in the steam ships. I don't think it'll come to that because I've seen the automation available for soft fruit harvesting, and there are limited situations where they are suitable.
Not that any of this matters as none of the parties have taken away any lessons from this mess, so I don't really see how Britain will be able to recover for a generation.
Sorry, but I just get offended when people call us stupid. A lot of us didn't want this, FPTP means that over the past decade we've had major Conservative control even though the majority of voters didn't want them. Hopefully you can understand that a lot of us are stuck with a situation that we didn't want. Hopefully if we can be a bit more empathetic to the reasons people made poor decisions in the past, we can help offer better choices in the future.