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This is high key her fault...
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How much do the Democrats need to mess up before they can be considered to be working with the Republicans instead of against them?
Clinton was one whoopsie in a chain of mistakes that has led us here.
Edit: I am getting a significant amount of replies saying that I'm being mean to Hillary. To be clear, I'm not dogging on her. She did her best. I'm upset at the Democratic party for putting her against Trump. She lacks charisma, it's not her fault.
Spoiler: Both are Right Wing parties, so they represent the establishment, not the people or progressive ideals.
We need Ranked Choice Voting so we can vote our conscience and ideals and stop being forced into a lose-lose situation every election.
How many time does it take to not be her fault and finally fall on the electorate?
It takes a village when? How long after the baby is born?
You mean the electorate that was voting for Bernie en masse but Wasserman-Schulz and the big donors didn't want that so they threw the rest of the primaries to go Hillarys way? The electorate that was disenfranchised by their own party?
Oh holy Jesus yes keep saying it was all stolen from you. The primaries are rigged, the election was stolen!
You are a pawn! Being used for adrenochrome!
Bernie had the rug ripped out from him! Thats why he worked with the DNC. Thats why Bernie says the opposite of you. Cause they fucked him!
Bernie was fucked by the establishment stranglehold over mainstream media, inherent flaws in the primary system, and some truly underhanded tactics. There has been no good evidence of any kind of tampering with the votes.
Bernie has always been a pragmatist. The progressive movement has nothing to gain by him obsessing over sour grapes. Contrast that with Hillary who will live the rest of her life locked into the day she lost.
Compare your comment to sour grapes….
“Bernie” is a role you like to play. Bernie isn’t a person he’s your grievance.
I was explaining why Bernie moved on. I'd love to move on but it seems like every few months Hillary pops up in the media with another sneer.
Anyways, given where all the establishment fuckery of the past 50 years has led us at this particular moment, I feel like a little anger is justified, no?
Does Bernie hold that same anger? Has he moved on or have you not?
How would I know? The point is that the best thing he can do with his position in the Senate is to look forward. He's not the type to pursue his individual interests at the expense of the cause.
This is something a lot of my compatriots on the left don't seem to get. Good activists don't make good politicians, and good politicians don't make good activists. We need both. Bernie is a politician, and I'm not.
I actually have moved on in a lot of ways, except that I want us to learn from past mistakes so we don't repeat them. I want every person in America to understand how the establishment (of both parties) manipulates the national conversation so we quit falling for the same bullshit.
Casual victim blaming Hilary, ignoring the massive propaganda campaign against her, sponsored by a foreign government.
How very American of you.
Trump and the Russians are to blame, not Hillary.
Did trump and the Republicans prevent her from campaigning in swing states and heavily campaigning in democratic strongholds?
Hillary absolutely deserves blame for how her candidacy fucked the dog so hard she lost to Donald trump. She doesn't deserve all the blame for her loss by any stretch, but she does not need to be sanctified as a martyr of some kind.
I didn't blame Hillary. Hillary did her best. I blame the Democratic organization who decided to run Hillary. They could have run Bernie. They could have run somebody who had more charisma.
The average voter is retarded. They need to see strength and charisma.