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She looks happy to you?
How the fuck could you know, just from a single picture? What, you know she isn't?
I agree, it feels like most people never looked at pictures of couples before. Even if this is staged or photoshop there is no evidence of her being unhappy.
Now this guy could be the worst person on Earth, but we really don't know that based on one photo from what is clearly a staged photoshoot (not even a candid shot).
I understand wanting to make a point, but this whole thread to be honest looks exactly to me like the flipside of people salivating against drag shows or stuff like that: hard stances based on no information. One picture and it's already certain he is a groomer, she is not happy etc.? Yes, there is a big age difference, but this doesn't mean anything per se.
I am honestly very surprised to see people acting with such confidence over something they objectively know so little about.
i’m not sure how much context I need to decide it is inappropriate for 42 year-old to hit on a high schooler whether she is 18 or not.
You can of course have your own morale, but there is nothing objective. I cannot personally relate to that either, but I also acknowledge that this is purely cultural and therefore relative and possibly temporary. I find the arguments that by definition label it as wrong or worse grooming to be moralistic and - to some extent - bigoted. Even if directed towards a person that probably is a bigot himself etc.
What is wrong with you
I’m assuming you mean morals.
That’s about as far as I’m willing to take this conversation. Advocating for cultural relativism to defend a 42-year-old dating a highschooler and then calling me bigoted for not accepting it…I mean that has to be the bravest take I’ve seen in a long time. Indefensible, but brave.
By the way, I am an American and this guy lives in my society and culture. Please don’t be an intolerant bigot - apparently that falls under your definition, which is bizarre.
Man I’m out this is truly insane.
You could simply make your argument. If you can't support your point, than maybe it's not that clear after all. It seems you assume everything you believe is self-evident.
Anyway, I respect your wish to be out, so won't engage further.
Do you think a 42 year old should flirt with a high schooler? I feel like my stance has been pretty clear since the first comment.
Don’t bother responding this is truly insane and I am not continuing this conversation.
I think they "can". Provided certain conditions (like the relative maturity and reciprocal consent and attraction etc.) are met, there is nothing inherently bad.
Not sure why you ask a question if you don't care to get a reply...
Think that you might be wrong.
What a useful point! Thanks for the comment
If the person you’re talking to says you’re defending predators, and the mods remove your comment for defending predators, then you should stop for a second ask yourself, “Self, am I defending predators?”
How about you screenshot this conversation and send it to five friends and ask their opinion? If I were a betting man I would say you had a flash of a thought that said “this is a bad idea.“ You should explore that feeling.
Or conversely, send it to them and see what happens.
Useful enough for you? Later dude. I’m just going to block and move on. I don’t want to read anymore comments from someone who tries to introduce nuance questioning whether or not it’s OK for middle-aged adults to hit on high schoolers.
Would you consider a man in a park playing with little girls a predator? No you wouldn't, because that can be both a predator and a sweet grampa (and many other things). A man having a relationship (you are saying hitting on, you don't know) with a young girl is not necessarily a predator. Mind you, it can be! But the age alone doesn't tell us that. It's not nuance questioning, is accepting that human experience is different and people are different and yes, it's possible that a very young person has a very good relationship with someone much older. If I saw two people in public, it's not the first thing I would think, but that's due to my prejudices.
Also I don't care what two people say on a forum. The comment got 4 upvotes, so even the temperature check here shows me that it's clear I am not defending predators (which I would find abhorrent). Nor you nor anybody else has elaborated on why a middle-aged person in a relationship with a 20yo is necessarily (emphasis on necessarily) a predator. So I take it for what it is: a cultural item which is based on mostly prejudices and traditions. Mind you, I have it as well. This whole disgust is the first thing that came to my mind too. I just realized that it's based on nothing more than my gut feeling.
Edit: since I grew tired of having to receive sever accusations by people who refuse to engage in good faith in a discussion, potentially questioning their own moral value, I will give make you a favor and block you as well. Cheers.
Yes, and also as the other commenter stated this is a manipulated photo. So honestly there is no evidence of either.
One commentor expressed skepticism with no proof and then a person responded to them with an article about this couple’s engagement that also tells the story about how they met at an FFA event. So yes, there is pretty concrete evidence this is real.
Read the article it is right there. That is concrete proof. It announces their engagement and explicitly says where they met. I don’t understand how this is ambiguous to you.
I must have misunderstood you.
You are correct
There is proof that they met I'm not doubting you. I thought you where addressing something else.
Here's the proof I collected from this whole post to prevent further confusion:
1: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/11704611
2: https://lemm.ee/comment/13016073
Sorry, I came on too strong there