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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Salaries in countries like Poland are increasing, especially in IT.

Good to see Polish people improving their quality of life!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Fuck yes for IT but people working their asses of at lidl deserve a home too. The housing market is out of control here, and a take away pizza is now a luxury.

I would say with confidence that while QOL was increasing rapidly in Poland in the last two decades this one is sadly different. Late stage capitalism sucks.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Indeed, but to be honest, it's not like housing is really affordable in Western Europe either.

Seems like a global issue unfortunately

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Sure is. You cant even run away from it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Do you live in Tokyo? How is it over there? I heard that the mixed housing regulation helped a bit, is it the case for you?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-09-01/four-unique-ways-tokyo-approaches-housing/102784020

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I've been to Tokyo (and it's awesome!) but I don't live there.

I've only glanced at the headlines of the article you posted and most of the factors appear to be in the article. There are a few things that are missing though, afaiu, and it really is a bag of mixed blessings:

  • fairly relaxed building codes which means building gets cheaper
  • average houses, especially if they're on the smaller side, are only a couple of decades old -- the Japanese demolish and replace their relatively cheap housing fairly often
  • less space for motorized traffic
  • not a lot of greenery

Cursorily related to the final point: I was also really shocked at Japanese parks. On the plus side, they're extremely neat. However, most of them have super-wide ways, so half the park is just paved over. And of course there are opening hours, usually they're open until 6pm but they have all kinds of alarms and announcements going off in the 30 minutes prior.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Interesting, thanks!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Increasing doesn't mean affordable yet. It sucks over here, even in IT. Poles are still the cheap workforce in IT for other countries.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Interesting, from what I've seen on the market, the B2B formula can be nice if you are able to work as a freelancer, I even see a few people coming from other countries to Poland for that.

But I guess it mainly depends who you work for.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

B2B is being cut down from working better than a regular work agreement. The golden days of it are gone. Also, being able to be fired in 5 mins without any notice other than a "fuck you get out" sucks.