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[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

European lefty here with some questions for the anti-both crowd.

With the FPTP voting system, aren't you limited to a binary choice between Trump and Biden? I agree that Biden has been shamefully complicit in the Palestinian genocide (among broken campaign promises and rightful health concerns), though I would imagine that "finish the job" Trump would be a more destructive choice. Would it not be marginally better to have Biden in office?

I don't hold Biden in the view of someone who is a champion of environmentalism or global peace, but an anti-NATO, anti-climate science, fraudster surely would be more likely to implement harmful changes that are difficult to reverse versus a generic neoliberal?

Of course, this is through the perspective of your current voting system; ideally you would have third-party options that you could realistically elect that are not fronted by genocide supporters. In a case where you had the option for ranked choice or approval voting, who would your ideal party or candidate be?

(Not a troll/criticism post - genuinely curious about the spectrum of American politics coming into the election!)

[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

I agree that Biden has been shamefully complicit in the Palestinian genocide (among broken campaign promises and rightful health concerns), though I would imagine that “finish the job” Trump would be a more destructive choice.

Biden also believes in "finishing them", he just doesn't say it out loud. The Biden admin has sent an absolutely enormous amount of munitions to Israel (without which they don't have the military capacity to fight against Palestinians this long) and provided full diplomatic cover. The Biden admin has also sent boots on the groun in palestine, sending US soldiers to participate in the Nuiserat massacre.

I don’t hold Biden in the view of someone who is a champion of environmentalism or global peace, but an anti-NATO, anti-climate science, fraudster surely would be more likely to implement harmful changes that are difficult to reverse versus a generic neoliberal?

Biden is also anti-climate and anti-science. His optics are better than of Trump, but his policies aren't. The whole thing about voting for Biden wouldn't be a discussion if Biden was materially and significantly better than Trump.

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