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I repeat it because guy I was chatting with acts like USSR didn't ally with Germany and didn't split another country. If invading and splitting a country supported by a treaty is not an alliance, I don't know what else is.
Then you don't know what is. Now it's time for you to learn.
The Nazis invaded Poland and dissolved the Polish government. The Soviets knew that the Nazis were going to attempt to invade Russia over the Ukrainian border, just like Napoleon did. In order to delay this, they needed Soviet troops on the ground to slow down and monitor Nazi movement, but they had no pretext for doing so. Because Germany had not yet declared war on the USSR, the solution was to create a peacetime non-aggression treaty that allowed Soviet troops to be deployed to Poland. This had the effect of getting Soviet troops on the ground without starting the hot conflict. It also had the effect of taking a portion of Poland away from the Third Reich.
You make it sound like M-R was the Soviets conspiring with the Third Reich to divide up Poland and then invading it, but that's not actually what happened. Ultimately what made the USA enter the war was that the USSR was the only country willing to liberate Europe from the Nazis, and what happened in half of Poland during M-R then happened in all of Eastern Europe - the Soviets occupied territory that would have been occupied by fascists. You can't paint occupation by the Soviets as equivalent with occupation by the Nazis when literally the only alternative to occupation by the Nazis.
Not just Poland baltics too....
And yes that's what happened. Why are simping for a fallen empire anyway?
People who lived under Soviet rule don't earn for it.
— A.J.P. Taylor, The Origins of the Second World War, pg. 262
— Michael Parenti, The Sword and the Dollar, pgs. 144–145
@[email protected] and others are ‘simping’ for the USSR because that is the price that you have to pay for capitalism’s structural defects: it leaves us, the lower classes, in such destitute positions that we have nothing to lose by seeking alternatives.
In fact for 30 years after the dissolution of the USSR polling indicated that well over 50% of people living in the former republics adjacent to Russia believed that the loss of the USSR was a net negative.
Poland joined in on the Anschluss of Czechoslovakia and were the first to sign a pact with Germany before the war.