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[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Any sane adult who is even minimally informed understands that the west cannot win this war. This was obvious to everybody with a functioning brain before the war started, and it's beyond dispute now. Yet, we still have people like you running around needing more convincing.

Another way to read this would be if you’d claim the adequate response to fascist warfare is to instantly surrender and give the aggressor whatever they want - which would obviously completely ridiculous.

Yeah, just like countries had to surrender to western aggression for many decades because the west was stronger than them. Welcome to the real world you sweet summer child.

[-] [email protected] -3 points 1 week ago

So what do you want Ukraine to do?

It's easy hiding behind passive-aggressive rhetoric. I've yet to see you actually argue in favor of anything.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

You're the only one hiding passive aggressive rhetoric here. The reality of the situation is that Ukraine has lost the war. Please explain to the class why you think more people dying is going to make the outcome better. I'm very interested to hear your rationale for that.

[-] [email protected] -3 points 1 week ago

But what should they do? Like actually, right now?

Seriously if you can't even manage to formulate your opinion clearly there's no point in taking you seriously. Either you already know how stupid your opinion is or you're just trolling.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Why should I decide what they should do exactly? That's the business of people in Ukraine. I'm simply pointing out the basic facts of the situation. Ukraine has lost the war, and its position will continue to deteriorate with each and every day. If the war goes on long enough then there simply won't be an Ukraine left. that's the reality.

The only thing that's stupid here is ignoring the elephant in the room and stomping your feet like a child in fact of reality. That's trolling that's getting people killed. If you genuinely believed what you spew here, then you would've signed up for the foreign legion instead of cheering for other people to die from the safety of your home like the cowardly troll that you are.

[-] [email protected] -2 points 1 week ago

You don't have the guts to say it, do you? You want Ukraine to SURRENDER.

We have a word for people who kneel before fascists. How fortunate that such small-minded people don't determine the fate of the world.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Why wouldn't I have the guts to say the obvious. Yes, Ukraine should surrender because it can't win. Absolutely hilarious how you can't engage with the real world while running around calling other people small-minded.

Go sign up for the foreign legion already troll put your money where your big mouth is. People like you are absolutely disgusting. You cheer on for other people to suffer and die for you, as long as you personally aren't inconvenienced. It's pathetic and you're not fooling anyone.

[-] [email protected] -2 points 1 week ago

I don't know why you did not have the guts to say it, but you very obviously didn't. That's why I said it for you.

I'm just glad you're such a minority. After all with your mindset the Allies would have left the world to the Nazis in the 1940s and the thousand-year Reich would have been realized.

That is the reality of your attitude.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Absolutely hilarious that you're comparing Russia to the nazis when Ukraine has literal nazi brigades and Banderites in the government. The reality of your attitude is that you're a cowardly nazi simp.

[-] [email protected] -2 points 1 week ago

Moving the goalposts I see. Now that your opinion is out in the open and so obviously baseless, suddenly it's not about harm reduction anymore, no, the Ukrainians are actually the bad guys.

Hit me up when you have an actual opinion to discuss and are willing to stick to your story. Because this is a waste of time.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Nope, I'm not moving any goalposts here at all. The west helped overthrow the democratically elected government in Ukraine and installed a regime run by literal fascists. Yet, here you are pretending that it's actually people fighting the fascists who are really fascist.

I don't see any reason to hit up a nazi. Here's what you stand for. This what you're all about, but being a cowardly nazi, you don't actually fight and just troll online.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Good luck convincing any anticommunist to read one of those links, let alone all of them.

Normally I try to limit myself to a maximum of three. Anything more than that and it’s a guaranteed ‘tl;dr’ from them.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Oh I don't expect fascists to read any of the links. I tend to leave them for other people reading the thread who don't suffer from brain rot.

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[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Yeah so funny when the west overthrows a democratically elected government and puts literal fascists in charge.

[-] [email protected] -4 points 1 week ago

Your mental acrobatics are the funny part. I don't want to force Ukraine to surrender, so I'm a Nazi. I mean that sounds like a totally sane take 👍

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Nah, you want the western backed regime in Ukraine to keep kidnapping people off the street and forcing them to fight because you're a fascist https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/15/world/europe/ukraine-military-recruitment.html

[-] [email protected] -3 points 1 week ago

Well and here I thought it's because we evil Europeans are after Ukrainians resources.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

That's literally what your mainstream media admits, not sure how that's contradictory with you chuds overthrowing the government in Ukraine and backing a dictatorship in your mind. Installing brutal dictatorships is literally what the west does around the world to plunder resources from countries.

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[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

I mean literal books have been written on the subject, but I guess if you were minimally literate then you wouldn't be spewing nonsense here in the first place bud.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Washington’s intentional support for antisocialist autocracies isn’t something under dispute among professional historians. There is an abundance of evidence for this in works such as Killing Hope and Thank God They’re on Our Side: The United States and Right‐Wing Dictatorships (to name only a few). Here is a quote from Gian Giacomo Migone’s The United States and Fascist Italy, pages xxv–xxvi:

As Arnold Offner pointed out, the roots of appeasement were by no means confined to the European side of the Atlantic.¹⁵ David Schmitz, without taking the trouble to quote me or any other author or document in a language other than English, has confirmed my analysis in this regard and rightly linked the American attitude toward the Fascist dictatorship to a subsequent trend in the history of U.S. foreign policy.¹⁶

Even FDR would call a convenient dictator “an s.o.b., but our s.o.b.” And on at least one occasion he called Mussolini “that admirable Italian gentleman” but was otherwise far more receptive to any critical analysis of European dictatorships than were the professional diplomats in the State Department, before and during his administration. Unfortunately, there were never any Dodds or Messersmiths posted in Rome!¹⁷

Plenty of anticommunists already acknowledge Washington’s support for autocracies. They just shallowly brush off it by saying ‘at least they weren’t communist’.

For the record, I am guessing that you probably aren’t a neofascist, but I don’t need to accuse you of being one when carelessly overlooking the Ukrainian régime’s atrocities already makes you look awful.

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