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[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There's heavy rain at Giza a couple days a year. Over 4500 years of that.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Furthermore, various structures securely dated to the Old Kingdom show only erosion that was caused by wind and sand (very distinct from the water erosion).

So where’s their water erosion then?

Just to save the downvoters some trouble, I’m only suggesting that theories which are not supported by direct anthropological evidence are worth considering. I’m not saying aliens - or Atlanteans or whomever - carved the Sphinx. The erosion theory was just the first thing I thought of as an example.

Back in the early 1990s, when I first suggested that the Great Sphinx was much older than generally believed at the time, I was challenged by Egyptologists who asked, "Where is the evidence of that earlier civilization?" that could have built the Sphinx.

They were sure that sophisticated culture, what we call civilization, did not exist prior to about 3000 or 4000 BCE. Now, however, there is evidence of high culture dating back to approximately 12,000 years ago, at a site in Turkey known as Göbekli Tepe. A major mystery has been why these early glimmerings of civilization and high culture disappeared, only to reemerge thousands of years later.

https://www.robertschoch.com/sphinx.html

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I’m only suggesting that theories which are not supported by direct anthropological evidence are worth considering

You can consider an idea and build a theory around it, but once your basic idea is disproven, your whole theory disappears. And the idea that the Sphinx erosion doesn't match the agreed upon age has already been proven wrong - as in, it has been explained that the observed erosion is perfectly compatible with what rock types are there and with the data that we know since the actual period it was built in, the mid third millenium BCE. So you don't have your premise that the erosion doesn't match the official age, and that means there is nothing left to consider here until you actually have something new, anything else is fanfiction.

Considering new idea is perfectly fine, no one disagrees with that, but you are not considering new ideas, you are considering old ideas that were proven wrong and not listening when someone tells you why it's wrong. Get new material.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

it has been explained that the observed erosion is perfectly compatible with what rock types are there and with the data that we know since the actual period it was built in, the mid third millenium BCE

Is it the case then that we should see similar erosion in contemporary local structures? My understanding was that we didn’t, is that not right?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

https://youtu.be/DaJWEjimeDM?si=rwX4eZZQvGV22iiR first half is citing two guys who think the Sphinx is older than we think (including your guy); third guy and after show that the erosion and the faults didn't come from rain from outside, but water infiltration from below, from before the Sphinx was carved into the rock, and that yes, we do see it in other places in the same rock layer. Other buildings above it don't have that erosion from below. So the erosion is indeed old, but it didn't happen from rain falling after the Sphinx was carved out, so you can't use it to determine when the Sphinx was carved out of the ground.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Thanks. YT has started requiring a sign-in, but it appears to be only sometimes, so i’ll check it out the next time they feel like letting me in i guess.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I don't keep up with youtube alternatives but this one doesn't require login https://invidious.fdn.fr/watch?v=DaJWEjimeDM the video isn't loading easily but it seems to work after a bit

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You can date rock like that with luminescene dating... My dude, it's great to wonder about the past. It's a beautiful thing but this guy isn't who you should be fixating on.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Artifacts which can be dated using these methods include ceramics, burned lithics, burned bricks and soil from hearths (TL), and unburned stone surfaces that were exposed to light and then buried (OSL).

Is it not the case that the stone around the Sphinx was in situ or not “exposed to light (then re-buried)”? I’m assuming OSL is the technique since afaik the Sphinx structure wasn’t burned (TL)?

https://www.thoughtco.com/luminescence-dating-cosmic-method-171538

I see articles that OSL confirms established dates, just not sure how the exposed-to-light-then-reburied works. We know the Sphinx was buried in the late 18th century, but obviously had been uncovered at some point before that in order to be built - what effect would that have on the OSL dating?