this post was submitted on 12 Jul 2024
310 points (89.7% liked)

Political Memes

5075 readers
3755 users here now

Welcome to politcal memes!

These are our rules:

Be civilJokes are okay, but don’t intentionally harass or disturb any member of our community. Sexism, racism and bigotry are not allowed. Good faith argumentation only. No posts discouraging people to vote or shaming people for voting.

No misinformationDon’t post any intentional misinformation. When asked by mods, provide sources for any claims you make.

Posts should be memesRandom pictures do not qualify as memes. Relevance to politics is required.

No bots, spam or self-promotionFollow instance rules, ask for your bot to be allowed on this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

I'll vote for neoliberal dementia grandad to try to stop fascist dementia grandad, without hope, just to be able to say I did what I could to minimize harm.

That said, if you don't see the writing on the wall that our constitution and government has run out of road, cannot be repaired, is too corrupted, is basically a puppet of the owners of our rigged economy that works against most of us and humanity's future for a quick buck, and we need a new constitution and nation based in punishing and limiting greed/sociopathy and rewarding cooperation, then I don't know what planet you're on.

Even IF we miraculously manage to keep squeaking in Neoliberals to stop the fascists, the Neoliberals agree with the fascists that massive economic disruption for the sake of OUR ONLY HABITAT isn't acceptable, which means this new climate will continue to worsen at an accelerating rate.

I'd rather not scapegoat vulnerable groups as we fry, which is why I'll keep showing up, but this is water pumps on the Titanic, the outcome of accepting this framework is still drowning, just at 2:48am instead of 2:42am.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

That said, if you don’t see the writing on the wall that our constitution and government has run out of road, cannot be repaired, is too corrupted, is basically a puppet of the owners of our rigged economy that works against most of us, and we need a new constitution and nation based in punishing and limiting greed/sociopathy and rewarding cooperation, then I don’t know what planet you’re on.

You could have said that at any point in the last 200+ years, and it would have been just as true.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Hopefully your optimism is correct.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

It's a mixture of optimism and cynicism.

Things are bad, but also, they've always been bad. The fight is hard, but it's always been hard. We're a hair's breadth away from ruin, but we've almost always been a hair's breadth away from ruin. People are suffering terribly because of stupid, poorly constructed bullshit and won't let it go, but they've also always been doing so.

And yet within all that, sometimes, through great effort and sacrifice against the status quo, good things happen. And sometimes, great things happen. We have to believe that they still can happen if we fight for it.

At the same time, we have to recognize that many before us have fought insufficiently hard, or fought their hardest but still got screwed by circumstance, and DID fall into ruin. We have to recognize that as a possibility as well.

That being said, I would fucking dread a constitutional convention held at this point in time, regardless of the rules by which the population apportioned representatives to draft it.