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I've always been annoyed by all the country flags. I don't think any country should be represented on there and am not sure how the Nato flag is much worse. But unfortunately many people seem to be pretty patriotic :(
They just do not have nothing else to be proud of.
NATO has a far-right historical context and does not exist out of that context. Like, nobody is from NATO, it's an Imperialist millitary alliance.
Well, countries are also just made up and serve to divide people. Not much better than the NATO...
I'd say 'no border no nation' and then we've also solved the problem of NATO!
Countries exist regardless, they are pockets of self-governance. NATO is an explicit defense alliance among the largest Imperialist Powers. In Star Wars, it's the Empire's military forces, it's a defense of the status quo against those under the thumb of Empire.
Sure, I can agree that the NATO is considerably worse than countries. I still think that there shouldn't be any country flags on spaces like this and that patriotism will always lead to nationalism and then to fascism.
Sure, I can agree with most of that. I think Nationalism is worse than Patriotism, and won't inherently lead to fascism, as fascism is more of a "turning back of the clock" to the "good old days." A flag of progress can be useful and good.
I drew the hungarian flag in EU, not for being patriotic to my country (It's disappointing to be hungarian) but for my love to EU.
the EU is just a (neo-) imperialist/colonialist block submissive to NATO
To clarify: I am very much in favour of a union of peoples, just not under the auspices of and in servitude to the rich
Well, we are indeed too reliant on the US, especially in military-related affairs, but at least NATO sorta provided a guaranteed safety from countries called Russia for example, even with some of NATO's controversial choices in the past (I haven't formed an opinion on the involvement in the Serbian-Croatian war yet, both sides have its merits). We will see how the independent European army plan will fruition.