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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Enough. This is getting ridiculous now. Look, I get why we’re doing this, but isn’t the engagement what Reddit wants?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Listen, for the last 2-3 months, I've only visited Reddit to participate in /r/RedditAlternatives. I've moved everything here. I want to make that happen for others too. I'm happy here. I don't even subscribe to this subreddit or any of the ones about other social media sites. I tend to downvote anything I do see about Reddit or Twitter, because I just don't need to hear about them any more. I'm driving very little traffic Reddit's way, and the only time I do so is to hasten it's demise. This is getting tons of press. It's worth it IMO.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm sure they're hating that 1% of their users is spamming /r/place with bot visits, but I think you have to realize that there's no "fight" to be won and reddit definitely isn't facing any type of demise.

If you like Lemmy, help improve it and stop talking about reddit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

How else can people help it improve other than spreading awareness about it? While I have no doubt there's a lot of developers using Lemmy, it's not like every Lemmy user is a developer.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago

I'd argue that coming to other platforms begging people to go to Reddit is more impactful than your own personal browsing even if you hadn't changed your habits at all. It's just ragebait and Reddit knows it. Stop playing into their hand.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago

You lost me at listen

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good to get awareness out there, the more people who know about these federated alternatives the better, even if it means having to use Reddit (where there's still a huge population of potential converts)

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There seems to also be some confused people who want to move on, but who don't know where to go. For those of us already here it's obvious that kbin/Lemmy is the platform of the migration, but from the outside a lot of people are still considering centralized alternatives.

Having a join-lemmy banner in the middle of r/place with no other Reddit alternatives present should more or less settle the debate on where the move is going to, in a way that speaks directly to the relevant audience (those still on Reddit).

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

That's what I'm saying! There's literally NO BETTER ADVERTISEMENT for Lemmy than the literal middle of r/place (we held that position for days so it's not just a blip on the timelapses, that will be posted later, either). The middle is the first thing most people will zoom at when looking at the end result.

There's too many doomers in this thread, them saying "move on we lost" is the same as saying "climate is already fucked why bother". I am NOT pro-Reddit but WHERE ELSE should we advertise a Reddit alternative?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

The only reason I found out about Lemmy was through Reddit.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Do you really think we have any chance of driving engagement/traffic up (or down) in any significant way? You are overestimating our numbers and vastly underrating theirs.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m not saying that, I’m saying that we should just leave Reddit alone. r/Place was a PR move to drive up engagement. Doing this is exactly what Reddit wants. Anyone who wants to move already has.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Honestly, there's absolutely nothing wrong with what you said and I respect that. But I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree (for "major" events like r/place). :)

I never go to reddit anymore and only went to r/place. My reasoning is this: they will get their views whatever we do. Bots, streamers, and the sheer popularity of r/place in reddit guarantees that. A few thousand lemmings definitely won't make a mark, anyway, so why not use that for our cause?

There are still a few people on the fence (on leaving reddit) and more people (certainly more than i exected) are still ignorant of the whole API debacle. It's a honestly rare now, but we still get someone who is trying to migrate in our discord.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can't we just make our own place? Like a permanent one that's better than Reddits?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I think the fleeting nature is actually kind of what makes it great. Run it once a year for a week. Not sure how you'd accomplish something similar with the fediverse though. Someone would try to run it off-site without the community as a whole getting on board and then you end up with like 8 people participating.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So why are you participating in a reddit community on lemmy then?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Just because you want to vent about an ex with friends that doesn't mean you want to send your ex money.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah that's the point, and it's why this is the first r/place that's not on April Fools.

It's crazy transparent, they're desperately trying to get some green statistics before they go public.