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[–] [email protected] 252 points 1 month ago (23 children)

they are on a format that NSA no longer has the ability to view or digitize,” the NSA FOIA office said in a follow-up. “Without being able to view the tapes, NSA has no way to verify their responsiveness. NSA is not required to find or obtain new technology (outdated or current) in order to process a request.”

In short, "we don't want to".

[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 month ago (13 children)

Which also gives them another idea on how to deny FOIA request?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (10 children)

In that case cant we request the raw data in another format? I dont care about the end result if i can make em run trough hoops to comply

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Tapes

Raw data

How, without the right kind of reader

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"Your failure to plan does not constitute my emergency".

Sounds to me like they're just choosing not to comply with FOIA, a federal law.

This is a bullshit ruling and everyone involved with it knows it. They have my information, I require a copy of my information, end of story. Not providing it is noncompliance.

But of course nothing will happen because the American federal government is broken.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

What if I didn't turn on my office lights, so now I can't read any written materials. I decline the use of technology like lights to help me with this. Now we don't have to fill requests for written materials.

I threw away all speakers and headphones. Any audio cannot be processed because we lack the technology and we do not have to get more.

See how stupid this is???

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I never specified correctly read data.

I don't care weather they read it by microwave the tape and provide me a transcript of chef and dinner quest first reactions to it. Or if that ends up actually useful. But its interesting to know wether or not specific data is at all requestable.

When it comes to things that are deemed public, all the information around it should be too, regardless of intend or use.

In essence, everything is information, it would be a mistake to discriminate on perceived value because we never know what future science can accomplish or what specific aspiration someone may follow.

Practical Example: While its reasonable that most people assume The text of the Declaration of Independence is what is important. That is not the case if you happen to do a historical study of hemp genetics and want to learn what strain of the plant was used for the declaration.

An officia office should to my opinion put as much effort into being helpful against requests of both kind.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The way I understand this, the issue is that without reading it they cannot verify that it doesn't contain sensitive information, so they can't give it out. That sounds like a reasonable explanation to me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

The president can't lie to us if he doesn't know who he is

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