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[–] [email protected] 101 points 4 months ago (6 children)

The thing that weirds me out is that Austin Powers was frozen for 30 years and when he woke up, society had changed so much between the 60s and the 90s that he was hilariously out of place.

If the movie were made today, he'd be frozen for 30 years to go back to... the 90s. Obviously a lot has changed with technology since then, but the societal differences aren't as visible.

It seems like it'd be a movie where Austin barely understands the Internet and cell phones - and does stuff against social norms like trying to smoke in a restaurant.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 4 months ago (3 children)

The attitude towards LGBTQ+ folks is a lot different compared to the 90s. Back then "gay" was an insult I heard at school all the time, and it was a huge deal when Ellen came out.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Now that I think of it, it'd be almost impossible to make the movie funny and instead it would sound like a conservative ranting about how they got cancelled on the Internet for calling someone gay.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Depends on how it's handled. While I think your version is the most likely outcome, especially considering the creative team are a bunch of aging Gen Xrs, the reason the original escaped the pitfalls we are talking about here is that Austin's 60s sensibilities are the butt of the joke, not the advancement of societal norms so often decoratively labeled as "political correctness". The movie is about the character learning to adapt to the times, and not the character demanding the times return to the 60s status quo.

Really though, I think they already sort of made the movie we are talking about here, and it turned out fantastic. The 21 Jump Street movies were basically what we are describing, just without time travel shenanigans. Channing Tatum's character, who was hot shit at his high school in the 90s, returns to high school 20 years later and finds that the things that made him popular are no longer cool and he has to learn to adapt to changed circumstances. Obviously that one is specifically satirizing the change in school culture post-90s, but it works on a general level too I think.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Little Demon also does this bit. Chrissy (the Antichrist) is hanging out with the cool girls at high school. Who, this being the 2020s, are wiccan social justice warriors. Chrissy's dad Satan (played by Danny DeVito) is very mad about this, and decides to help her friend Bennigan become popular at school so he can talk her out of being cool. First he tries telling everyone that Bennigan slept with a hot teacher, but this just leads to the teacher getting arrested and everyone feeling sorry for Bennigan. Then he tries getting Bennigan to prank the skater hooligans, but Bennigan refuses and gets them to open up about their feelings instead, which is what actually makes him popular.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Maybe if he has a new partner who's your standard straight-laced FBI guy, and Austin sees him kissing a man and thinks it might compromise the mission only to find out that's his partner's husband. Maybe have Austin meet the guy's kids first, too. I think it could be done, since not everybody from the 90s had that hard a time with it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Austin, the character, also has the advantage of being written as fully committing to the free love swinger movement of the 60s. It would not stretch credulity if his 90s era handlers were paranoid about Austin finding out his partner is a gay man, but Austin himself is completely nonplussed by the news. Hell, he could even allude to having same-sex experiences of his own ("You know, when you are at the bottom of an orgy pile, you don't always know where your bits and bobs are going, and you certainly don't care. Yeah, baby!")

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

True. And just last week Faze Clan, in a very unexpected turn, came out in support of Sketch when he was outted. In general, there have been quite a few people speaking for the LGBTQ+ community that I would have never expected to do so.

It’s kinda nice.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Did Faze Clan have a history of homophobia?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Can we drop this? Feels so outdated.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Sure, just stop hating women and minorities, g*mer.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Women and minorities game too you know.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Play some Baldurs Gate 3, Mars Effect, or Cyberpunk 2077 and then try again to argue that point in 2024. And those are just the ones that come to mind first.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

21 Jump Street already went down this joke path in 2012:

https://youtu.be/zuQiTE20nkQ?si=2GbiPQ41tFoTo7hE

And that's basically the half way point between today and the first Austin Powers movie.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Lol "in a weird way, it would have been homophobic not to punch you, just because you were gay."

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

All of that show was fantastic, but that's one of my favorite clips!

[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If the movie were made today, he'd be frozen for 30 years to go back to... the 90s. Obviously a lot has changed with technology since then, but the societal differences aren't as visible.

nothing changed after 9/11

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago

Could probably squeeze a couple minutes of comedy about him taking his shoes off at the airport and bombing Iraq.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Culturally we are as different today from the 90s as the 90s was to the 60s. Political Polarization, social media and 24 hour news cycles making things that wouldn't even have been B stories back in the 90s suddenly known across the nation if not the globe, changes on Abortion rights in the last 10 years someone waking up from the 90s would wonder if society had somehow backslid. Technology has definitely changed how society operates now as much as it did from the 60s to the 90s. And as another commenter said, 9/11 and the emotional scarring it did throughout the 2000s and how radically it made a more security conscious and tilting an entire country towards xenophobia.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It would however be hilarious if the opening number was Austin dressed in JNCO jeans and an oversized T-shirt dancing through the streets of London to grunge music.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago (1 children)

grunge music

Ska music. He is groovy.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

While that's more accurate to the character, and I love the idea of a 90s Austin Powers with white man dreads and a rastacap... You know what, nevermind. I was going to say grunge is funnier but I'd happily watch either one.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago
[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Wait, what? Were you alive in the 90s? It was radically different. We were in a world we didn't want but we still respected the government. We fought for our individualism. We wanted to be judged on our merit rather than our piercings or tattoos or baggy clothes. It mirrors the 60s in so many ways.

The biggest societal difference was the Internet. Our connection was through the people and events. We took pictures here and there and we could share them. But it's not like it is now. You would trust the local doctor if you had a big lump on your neck if they had a diagnosis. Rather than going on to the Internet and finding some obscure disease to seem cool.

It's such a big shift it's hard to encapsulate in just one statement. It's a big discussion.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago

Our attitude on homosexuality is wildly different.

The question "Homosexuals should have the right to Marry (agree/disagree) was asked in the GSS in 1988, 2004, 2021, and 2022.

People who answered "Agree" or "Strongly Agree"

2022: 67% 2021: 64% 2004: 30% 1988: 11%

The movie came out in 1997. In 1996 and 1998 (and many other years), the GSS asked people's opinion on the morality of gay sex. Nearly 70% found gay sex to be immoral.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Can only speak to the UK, but in the 90s women drinking pints of beer was so radical that they got their own name - ladettes, which also tied into the Girl Power movement (might have been third-wave feminism adjacent? Idk)

These days if a woman drinks a beer nobody would even bat an eyelid, it's just such an unusual thing to think that was ever considered not normal. This is just one case, but it's indicative of one way that society has progressed. There are many more examples of such societal changes.

Your statement prompted me to think back to when the BBC used to run stories on the dangers of uppity Ladettes and what that might mean for the establishment.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

Idk some dude dressed like Cobain eating Pizza Hut and using homophobic slurs? Wait, only the Pizza Hut is anachronistic…