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[โ€“] [email protected] -4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I thought the same thing to but I'm not so sure any more... I was a vegan for years...but that was killing me, so I did carnivore out of desperation and it worked

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Vegan isnt for everyone, although as the other poster said there are different ways to vegan. But, people need to allow that not everyone has a body that can handle every kind of diet.

I'm vegan so I just rather like not having to worry about all of the negative side effects of meat and dairy, but there are degrees to things, and a healthy diet could potentially include meat and dairy.

I dont actually know the carnivore diet that well, so I based what I said on the assumption that you would be consuming so much cholesterol containing food that it couldn't possibly NOT have an adverse affect on your life.

Could I ask if you could be more specific on what caused you to change from vegan? More of a curiosity for me than anything.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

check my comments below, i don't want to say some potentially unwavering stuff that doesn't have the science to back it up, but check it out I was quite shocked to find out all the health benefits that came with it... for example my body is so much more resilient I hurt my shoulder and now it's healed up completely after being on this diet for 4-5 months.

Kind of hard to believe, it worked for me thats all I'm saying, as for the cholesterol stuff our brains our made up of 20% cholesterol if i'm not mistaken so I mean having zero cholesterol i don't think is the way to go, it's there for a reason. Cheers brother! All the best no matter which way you live, whatever makes you happy and healthy.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Do you get regular cholesterol tests? I imagine if done in a certain way, with lean meat (high protein, low carb, low-ish fat diet), it could work OK. Vegan can also be healthy, if done properly. I've been vegan for about 5 years (switched because my cholesterol was a biy high), and have only noticed positive effects.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Im not the guy to try to red pill people, but yea look into the the whole cholesterol stuff like in this book:

https://www.amazon.ca/Great-Cholesterol-Revised-Expanded-Disease/dp/1592339336/ref=asc_df_1592339336/?tag=googleshopc0c-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=459591987525&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=15154042979475806172&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9001500&hvtargid=pla-918971768531&psc=1&mcid=b94a9e2cc59f39c1bbca97495f72ae72

or also Shawn Baker MD on Youtube. I literally couldn't believe this stuff either but it's worth having a look into. I'm not saying one or the other is better it entirely depends on the person and body type etc...

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

It appears the doctor that co-wrote that book was a quack or grifter that associated himself with other grifters like Dr Oz and The Doctors, and advocated for "alternate health practices" that have no evidence of being helpful (and that sound absurd): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Sinatra

For stuff like this, I usually try to find the most recent meta-analysis that looks reputable. For example: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9316578/

If I understand it correctly, it says people with total cholesterol above reference levels have a 27% increase in risk of cardiovascular mortality, people with high LDL have a 21% increase, and people with high HDL have 40% decrease in risk.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

yes I just got a test done, yes it's high but it's the ratio that matters (or so I'm told)