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This is the place for discussing the potential collapse of modern civilization and the environment.

Collapse, in this context, refers to the significant loss of an established level or complexity towards a much simpler state. It can occur differently within many areas, orderly or chaotically, and be willing or unwilling. It does not necessarily imply human extinction or a singular, global event. Although, the longer the duration, the more it resembles a ‘decline’ instead of collapse.

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We’ve burned through Earth’s yearly resource budget in 7 months (www.euronews.com)

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I remind you that this is c/collapse. In this venue I think the idea that our species is using up the world's resources at 1.7 times the rate that would be sustainable counts as optimism.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm saying that even x1.0 is too much. We should be leaving a lot of slack.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Midnight last day of December means indefinitely sustainable, without further degradation. This doesn't mean entirely withot alteration, since even early hunter-gatherers made several megafauna species extinct.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_Pleistocene_extinctions

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Net zero is optimistic. The world isn't constant, there are catastrophes even without our doing.