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Britain’s nuclear submarine software built by Belarusian engineers (www.telegraph.co.uk)
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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Britain’s nuclear submarine engineers use software that was designed in Russia and Belarus, in contravention of Ministry of Defence rules, The Telegraph can reveal.

It seems to be a popular trend.

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/german-sub-navigation-system-russian-controlled/

German media has reported that the Russian controlled ‘Navi-Sailor 4100’ has been installed on at least 100 vessels operated by Germany’s military, including the submarine fleet

Bild reports here that in 2005, under Federal Chancellor Gerhard Schröder, around one hundred vehicles, including aval platforms, were equipped with new navigation systems from Russian company Transas.

https://www.wartsila.com/ancs/integrated-vessel-control-systems/navigation/navi-sailor-ecdis

  • Real time monitoring
  • Remote support 24/7 chart and service support with a complete history of records and remote diagnostic option
  • Connectivity + Cyber security

Those seem like things that maybe it'd be a good idea to get from somewhere that isn't Russia.

I remember poking around a while back when that story broke and discovering:

  • The Navi-Sailor package directly connects to radar and positioning systems, so there are external radios interfacing with it. That is, their behavior can depend on what they receive from an externally-accessible radio, even independent of any explicit datalink systems.

  • The supported maps by the Navi-Sailor package include formats specified to permit flagging map information as classified, including classification COSMIC (which is specifically used for information shared at NATO level that's TOP SECRET-level and disclosure of which would be "gravely damaging to NATO"). Now maybe the German Navy does a really great job of restricting what information goes to the software, but I sure wouldn't bet on it.

  • It's driving their warships. Lot of room for things to go badly there.