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To be clear Fox has never argued that their entire network is entertainment and not news. They have made that distinction between what they call opinion shows like Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity's old shows and their actual news segments. Fox does produce a legitimate news broadcast that is considerably less biased and inflammatory than those opinion shows. Unfortunately that broadcast is not nearly as popular as the garbage shows they've had to make the arguments you're referencing about.
I don't give a flying fuck about the bullshit excuses of lying propagandists. And no, their "news" segments are not "legitimate:" the fact that they're "considerably less biased" than the rest of it is just damning with faint praise. The "news" segments may not tell outright lies like the talking-head shows do, but they damn well lie by omission in terms of which stories they choose to cover and who they choose to quote.
I don't think anything I said could be considered praise of Fox News. It's simply more factual and measured than the profanity laden emotional outburst you chose to go with. Fox can suck a whole bag of dicks for all I care, I just think it's important to have your facts straight. After all, not doing so is exactly why most of us have a problem with Fox to begin with.
Then why didn't you? The fact is that even what they call "news" is still extremely biased. The fact that it's "less" so, compared to commentary shows that are so far off the deep end that I'd have to invent new superlatives to adequately express how biased they are, does not change its position on an absolute bias scale.
You called that shit "legitimate," and that just isn't true.
Are you really getting your panties in a bunch because I'm not agreeing with you hard enough? Or is it that you'd rather virtue signal than acknowledge facts? The main takeaway of what I originally said is that Fox has never said in court that their news segments are entertainment that has no obligation to stick to the truth. The person I responded to made that claim and it is factually incorrect. That argument only applies to what they call their opinion segments. If you take issue with that then you're ignorant of the facts and that's all there is to it.
If you want to interpret the rest of what I said as an endorsement of the quality of their news segments then that's your own business. Those were clearly relative statements which you are choosing to be intentionally obtuse about so please take this opportunity to take the rest of your unnecessarily hostile comments with you when you fuck off.
Eh, I'd debate the word 'considerably'.
Less blatant bias? Yes. Still biased AF? Also yes.
Not entire network of shows is entertainment there's the 2 hours a day when they give their preferred hosts a break. I don't really know the hours spent on actual news but I have the impression it's in low single digit hours. I also assume they put more emphasis on right wing topics during those times, as factual as they may be rather than a balanced news source. If I'm wrong I'll gladly be corrected since I don't really watch broadcast TV anyways (corrected typo)