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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

Politics/classI feel like Australia is increasingly becoming stratified. There are people who are still a bit more protected but the people at the bottom are left fighting each other for scraps and dragging each other down like crabs in a bucket.

Occupy Melbourne was incoherent and quickly squashed but these are the living conditions that were predicted and protested

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It has always been like this.

For a few decades the middle class forgot they were still part of the proletariat and weren't really independent bourgeoisie.

Occupy was a Russian front, ignore it.

What the Marxists never say, or maybe they never figured it out, is that America and Australia only had good post war living standards for the working classes because they were the only western countries that hadn't had their factories bombed to the shithouse. It meant we became primary and secondary industry powerhouses. But once industry had enough money again and factories could be built in places with cheaper labour we were doomed. That's what capitalism is.

me and my husband had to get professional jobs overseas to escape the old boy network and that was 25 years ago

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Just last week, John Quiggin released a book on pretty much this exact topic, called "After Neoliberalism".

You can download the eBook for free, or order a printed copy here: https://press.anu.edu.au/publications/series/global-thinkers-series/after-neoliberalism

If you're interested in an in-depth look at the economic and government policies that erosion of the middle class happened, it's worth a read.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

The law locks up the man or woman

Who steals the goose from off the common

But leaves the greater villain loose

Who steals the common from off the goose.

The law demands that we atone

When we take things we do not own

But leaves the lords and ladies fine

Who take things that are yours and mine.

The poor and wretched don’t escape

If they conspire the law to break;

This must be so but they endure

Those who conspire to make the law.

The law locks up the man or woman

Who steals the goose from off the common

And geese will still a common lack

Till they go and steal it back

~Late 1700s

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I’m not sure about downloading or ordering but I found this https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Aj4ha2QCX1w

Sadly it’d probably just confirm what I already have a sense of.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

I know @[email protected] posts on the Fedi fairly regularly...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

It's going to keep getting worse too. I give us about 4 years.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

@melbaboutown @Seagoon_
Apparently the revolutionary French visited Australia and declared Australia practised "Socialism without doctrine". That was long ago and trades hall today is a museum of collapsed trade unions. Both left and right totalitarian systems are currently regarded as frightfully modern era and intemperate. I can't wait to see what comes after post-modernism.