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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/15011909

Feedback welcome! Here's the TL;DR list

  1. Listen more to more Black people
  2. Post less – and think before you post
  3. Call in, call out, and/or report anti-Blackness when you see it
  4. Support Black people and Black-led instances and projects

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I don't really understand why this is getting so massively downvoted.

Seems perfectly reasonable to me as a white person. Yes, point two could be more nuanced, but otherwise aren't all these downvotes kind of illustrating the point the OP is making here?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Point 2 is exactly why it is being down-voted. A post about how the Fediverse is toxic to one race/skin colour shouldn't be telling people of a different race/skin colour to "post less".

Discrimination based on race isn't welcome, no matter who it's against.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 months ago

Point 2 is better explained in the article. I don't take this as discrimination, more that while I will always aim to empathise and understand as much as I can about the black experience and be an ally, it's something I will never have direct experience of, so maybe there are some conversations that I don't need to muscle in on.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Probably the appeal to white guilt and call to action to specifically white people when the vast majority of people on the fediverse are not racist or “anti-black”

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Maybe not the majority, but clearly it's common enough to warrant mentioning for the people affected by it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I think examples might serve people better in this regard. It can be hard to accept things as real that you've never experienced, and don't fit with your lifetime of experiences, purely on faith alone.

Edit: I realize this is the exact opposite of "just accept other people have different experiences", but it's hard to deny that this is something a lot of people have trouble with in a lot of aspects of life. Expecting people to just override the natural state of viewing the world through their own personal lens is always going to be a hard ask.

People asking for examples are not always trying to find ways to tear other experiences apart. Sometimes they might need examples to help them understand better.