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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Americans worship Supply Side Jesus

but then there’s also plenty of arguments that most Christians worldwide worship the Church not Jesus

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Indeed. Wasn't one of the commandments to avoid false idols and stuff? And wasn't one of Jesus' things about you being able to directly pray to god or something? Just saying, the church is and always has been a scam, a political institution used to better control the masses, especially applicable in large population nations and empires (like the Roman Empire), loosely based on ideas of some guys' teachings. And that's the case for all organised religion.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

there are stories that in the Councils to determine which gospels to include in the New Testament, one of the first gospels to be deemed heretical was one where Jesus argued against the establishment of a church …

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you have a link on that? that genuinely sounds like an interesting thing to read into

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

heads up, there’s a reason I labeled them “stories” (certainly not something you can confirm through the church) – most of the stories come up as “secret knowledge” within the various esoteric/hermetic/gnostic sects and usually make reference to the Gospel of Mary Magdalene

  • possibilities include
    • most likely, Gospel of Mary, part of the Berlin Codex – somewhere between 100 and 150 CE maybe
    • less likely, Dialogue of the Saviour, part of the Nag Hammadi library – maybe 150 CE
  • two main councils for determining the New Testament (and remember they didn’t have carbon dating to determine authenticity)
  • we do know
    • the 12 disciples were sexist
    • Mary Magdalene was a single noble lady – a perfect target for misogynistic slander painting her as a prostitute
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Wait, does your story include that the council found it preferable to say the Son of God, King of the Jews, legitimate heir of King David, hangs out with a prostitute than with a noble woman?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Considering that we're talking about powerful men, that wanted to remain exactly that: powerful men, and not have their authority questioned by women, yes, yes they did.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

more insipid than that – that he would rather spend time with her instead of his “best buds” was clearly not right, so she must’ve been cheating – and if she was a proper woman, she would’ve been married already, something must be wrong with her …