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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I know it feels good to think this way but you are wrong.

Salt mines are being bought up and turned into self contained estates capable of self-sustained agriculture and power generation. Not for the general public, but by billionaires terrified of what's to come.

And they're not like you are imagining, cute little bunker homes like those repurposed missile silos.

Nope, they're mini cities, capable of maintaining the families, servants, and guards of the ultra rich for hundreds of years without outside support.

They are already being built, and more we don't know about.

When you have enough money, you can prepare for anything, and the only survivors of the coming economic collapse will be the people inside those bunkers.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

they’re mini cities, capable of maintaining the families, servants, and guards of the ultra rich for hundreds of years without outside support.

The slaves are going to revolt nigh-immediately when the government collapses and those riches evaporate without the societal support structure required to mobilize them

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah that's why they hired psychologists to give them tactics to control their guards and slaves.

The answers were:

Keeping family members hostage

The opportunity to intermarry into the owner class within the bunker

Drugs

(I shit you not) segregating the female guards and slaves and only allowing access to them through a rewards system

Better rations and living quarters.

Establishing a religion with the owner family as literal gods. I know this sounds stupid to us but imagine 3 generations of children raised like this in a tiny enclosed environment were all knowledge of the outside world is mediated through the owners.

A mix of these tactics may work in the medium term, and I'm sure there will be bunkers that revolt but I feel there will be some that don't for one reason or another. It's really no different from how kings had to work to keep their military leaders from taking power.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I feel like I've come across this vault in Fallout before.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Part of what makes the games so fun is that we all have a sneaking suspicion that that's exactly what a corp with Vault Tec's resources and sway would do with their customers post-apocalypse.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

exactly. the only question is how much money will it take to survive. AI is gonna make it easier for them to do it too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think that's why they are burning the world so intensely, they're trying to get their last profits in to secure their future in a world where currency is meaningless.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I think it's more ambivalence. they're fine with the status quo because obviously they're on top. But even if shit really starts hitting the fan they are wealthy enough to be just fine. And before full blown apocalypse comes they'll be long dead.