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I feel like WhatsApp should be in the middle. The app is terrible, but the messaging is actually encrypted. We paranoids also appreciate Signal, and Element disappointingly gets no play here.
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It's kind of weird, then, how they all end up doing evil stuff, including the guys that explicitly set out with the philosophy "don't be evil".
We can all tell conservative is supposed to be the enlightened one, but unless the creator is using a very malice-driven definition of evil (as opposed to including accidental evil) this line is an own-goal.
Do you think Whatsapp is actually encrypted and isn't a tool to get more information from its users because Meta pinky promised? Closed source piece of garbage.
Open Whisper did the actual message algorithm, and I understand it's open source. It could be copying your messages at the endpoint, I guess, but nobody has caught it doing that on wireshark to date.
Yeah, Matrix should be in the middle. Telegram is tech normie but in the east.
Fuck anything created by Facebook. It wouldn't surprise me if the EFF released an announcement today saying that Facebook always had a master encryption key and have hard records of every conversation ever had on WhatsApp. Actually, I'd be willing to bet real money that is the case, if there was any way to actually resolve that bet.
Literally not possible, from what I've read of the scheme involved. I haven't looked over it myself but I trust Open Whisper.
Last time I checked (which has been a while admittedly) they used their central server for key exchange, meaning the whole encryption is compromised.