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Author J.K. Rowling has fallen silent on her usually busy X (formerly Twitter) feed, after Olympic gold medalist boxer Imane Khelif filed a legal complaint in France for alleged cyber harassment over statements regarding her gender.

On August 9, lawyers for Khelif filed a lawsuit with a special unit of the public prosecutor's office in Paris, stemming from false statements that spread online about her gender after the Algerian boxer defeated Italy's Angela Carini in her first fight of the 2024 Olympic Games. Carini pulled out 46 seconds into the bout and told reporters afterwards that she had "never felt a punch like this."

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I haven't seen any reporting confirming that she's got XY chromosomes. But if you have an article, please correct me if I'm wrong. What I've been able to find is this:

Banned governing body that’s fueling outcry on Olympic boxers has Russian ties and troubled history

Summary-

  • The disqualification was done in a tournament run by an organization banned by the Olympics.

  • She participated in tournaments run by this organization with no issues for the last several years.

  • The organization hasn't said why she was disqualified.

  • The man spouting the 'trans woman' claims is the leader of the organization. He's a friend of Putin and described as a drug trafficker.

  • Her disqualification happened after she beat the previously undefeated Russian boxer Amineva 3 days post fight.

There's more in the article, but these are the quick bullet points I came up with.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Troubled Russian ties and corruption in the Olympics.

  • The organization hasn't said why she was disqualified.

Lie. They've said their tests found xy chromosomes.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

But they haven't said what test they performed to determine this, which would be the norm so the results can be verified.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

What is your point? If it's such the norm why hasn't she released the results herself?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Why does she have to? Why would she have a copy of a test allegedly done by a 3rd party that, based on news reports, was just using it as an excuse to eliminate her for beating a Russian opponent?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Do you know she doesn't have the test results? When I get medical tests done I usually do receive the test results.

There are news reports saying she's a man if you care so much about news reports.

It's funny how it works both ways. She doesn't have to release the results. And they don't have to release them so you can verify it either. Playing your own stupid game. Why do they have to release the results?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

You seem to be misunderstanding, intentionally I would guess. They claimed they did a test to "confirm" she was not a woman, I'm saying that's a steaming hot load of bullshit and they were just looking for an excuse and they have no results to release.

Please cite your sources saying there are news reports that she's a man.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

That user is basing their position on a Daily Mail article citing LePoint, a french right-wing magazine, that quotes one of her trainers, who said (with context) "There was a problem with her hormones and chromosomes, but she's a woman. That's all that mattered to us."

Nowhere does that even suggest she has XY chromosomes, and, to state the obvious, he's not a doctor. He's responding to an unsubstantiated allegation, and probably giving it too much credit. He even says that she underwent a testosterone test that came back within female norms.

It really is simple. The burden of proof is on people making these claims, and we're not taking the word of a blatantly corrupt organization, that had a vested interest in disqualifying Khelif, who would not say what test was administered or what the results were. If they had more specific information, they wouldn't shut up about it, because won't even shut up now with less to go on.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Here you go.

Are you sure I'm the one intentionally misunderstanding things?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

First of all, and you knew I was gonna lead with this, The Daily Mail?

Ok, let's pretend that's a legit news organization, now read my comment quoting Snopes and tell me if that answers any of your "questions".

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This is the source of the daily mail article. It's an exclusive interview with her coach since apparently you don't care to look further into it. Again, who is intentionally doing what here?

Anyways they should just test the chromosomes of their fighters at the very least. It's a simple blood sample nothing too invasive at all. I don't really care to watch an XY beat on an XX personally I don't see how it's an equal fight. Watch whatever you want though.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

So you ignored the Snopes article, got it. You only seem to reply to the comments that are easy for you to deflect, how interesting.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

What snopes article. Wtf are you talking about lmao. I think you were talking to someone else not me about that. Makes sense seeing how delusional you are anyways.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Ok I'll repeat myself: elsewhere in this thread I replied quoting the Snopes article on this subject. Are those instructions too confusing for you?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You never linked a snopes article to me. You never quoted anything from a snopes article to me. I don't know who you replied to but it's not on my thread here.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The thread begins when someone says something. Then people reply. ELSEWHERE in this thread is a reply, from me, quoting Snopes. Go back to when systemglitch commented in this post, follow the path to my reply quoting Snopes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

If I cared to reply to your comment you made to someone else I would have lmao. You can either quote relevant parts to me to what I'm talking about or you can fk on off. I'm not going on some wild goose hunt to track down a comment you made to someone else.

I mean even after looking I don't see any snopes article link. And I don't see any quotes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Uh huh, on my screen it's literally 2 comments below this one, kinda feels like you're looking for an excuse not to answer. Kinda like that time a wrestling organization looked for a bullshit excuse to disqualify someone, what a lovely parallel.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Ok? That's on your Lemmy app. On my screen it is not like that. Like a normal person you can just copy and paste in whatever relevant parts you want me to respond to. Hell, you can even paste the link to the comment you made or the link to the fucking snopes article. At this point I don't even care to engage with you anymore.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

You might be the most low effort person ever. Good luck in your future life, you'll need it.