this post was submitted on 17 Aug 2024
90 points (98.9% liked)

PC Gaming

8204 readers
519 users here now

For PC gaming news and discussion. PCGamingWiki

Rules:

  1. Be Respectful.
  2. No Spam or Porn.
  3. No Advertising.
  4. No Memes.
  5. No Tech Support.
  6. No questions about buying/building computers.
  7. No game suggestions, friend requests, surveys, or begging.
  8. No Let's Plays, streams, highlight reels/montages, random videos or shorts.
  9. No off-topic posts/comments.
  10. Use the original source, no clickbait titles, no duplicates. (Submissions should be from the original source if possible, unless from paywalled or non-english sources. If the title is clickbait or lacks context you may lightly edit the title.)

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

that's the thing though, these aren't bullet hell either. i agree that the "survivors" branding is confusing, but i don't think bullet hell is accurate either.

there's enough of these games now, they need a proper genre title. i legit have a hard time getting people on the same page when discussing these games (vampire survivors, magic survival, deep rock survivors, League of Legends swarm mode, etc...) it usually takes a good 5 minutes before they actually understand what kind of games I'm talking about unless they actively play them. I've just been calling them "vampire survivors like" even though i know it's not the first, it's the one most people are familiar with.

i think the "survival" part of it is that the only and exclusive goal is to stay alive. The way you choose to build toward that goal is where the gameplay comes in. bullet hell is similar in that regard, but the main goal of bullet hell is to dodge shit to stay alive. the main goal of these is to figure out a build path that makes you kill everything. it's more like a puzzle than a game of skill. once you get it right you shouldn't be dodging. i know many people that like bullet hell, but and not these, and vice versa. I'm one of them, i like these games, but not bullet hell. similar on the surface, but the appeal is way different.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

Bullet heaven has been my favorite genre title so far.