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Finally, another web engine is being developed to compete with Chromium and Firefox (Gecko), and they're also working on a browser that will use it.

Here's the maintainer talking about the current state of the project, and a demo of the current functionality

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[–] [email protected] 94 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (5 children)

Shopify (i.e. Shittify) being their top donor already has me looking sideways at this project. They'll invest in anything they think they can get an edge with and if something starts to happen they'll fuck it up and wallstreet-ify it as fast as possible if they can.

Their (Shopify's) guru founder Tobi made a huge NFT play that went absolutely nowhere while I still worked there. They spent a lot of time and money on it, right before they laid several thousand people off.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Oh great. Now I'm losing hope in this project even more.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago

I mean I hope Ladybird devs do a great build and go their own way without being corrupted by their donors and all that, don't get me wrong. But whenever I see that dumb shopping bag logo I get the no feelings.

You can also read up on how the vast majority of Mozilla's funding has been coming from Google for a very long time, and draw your own conclusions from that fact.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

While I agree shopify has a kind of "mierda touch", I still see it as if it goes sideways with them someone will just fork the code.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

I agree that it's not ideal, but hey, it's open source, and the Louis Rossmann cult is the only other top-tier donor, so I'm sure they'll be fine.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Also I'm very much cautious about them on anything browsing related. Discovered (after others also) they let their search-pages-in-a-shop get indexed.

Meaning I could go to Caterpillar, search for "Wabtec is better" and then this search url (with 0 products) would turn up in Google searches and that URL persisted. Text and all.

Basically one could spray-paint and tag sites with this graffiti. Shop admins didn't even have means to remove it.

Problem ignored and stayed this way for months.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Do you have a source for that? I'm trying to look for donors but don't really find anything.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Starts about midway down their page at ladybird.org

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

How could I have missed that, lol. Thanks.

Anyways, I don't think it's too weird. It might even be to simply have their name up there. We'll have to see.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

I read somewhere awhile back their platinum donors gave a certain tier (10k or 100k or whatever it was). To be clear I'm more than open to being surprised here, I want Ladybird to succeed. I just resent Shopify being involved in any way, I'm a little bit petty after slogging it out at that company awhile because I know what they're all about.