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Inspired by the very similar thread about school incidents.

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[–] [email protected] 80 points 3 weeks ago (14 children)

Previous HR was well beyond retirement age essentially working to have something to do and one day emailed all of management a spreadsheet asking us to verify our information. That sheet contained each of our full names, addresses, phone numbers, birth dates, social security number, etc.

To my knowledge nothing of significance happened. I have my credit frozen.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 weeks ago (12 children)

A few years ago I asked a customer for a list of employees, so I could verify who could purchase on their account. They replied with their personnel files. Luckily it didn't have social security numbers, but it had a LOT of personal information. Medical records, drug test results, stuff like that.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 weeks ago (11 children)

The whole workplace drug testing thing is so wild to me. An employer can actually lay claim to your bodily fluids? Absolutely mental.

In the Netherlands, it’s very simple:

  • if there are performance problems, then you address your employee’s performance problems.
  • if there are no performance problems, then there is no problem and what your employee does in their free time is none of your business.
[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Even if you're forklift certified? Or other heavy equipment operator (crane, excavator, front loader, big truck)?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

In the US, can each of these occupations get shitfaced the second they're off work?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Alcohol, yes, but with marijuana, since the substance they test for stays in your system for a long time, no. Though the argument has always been that it's illegal and so more serious. And technically it's still illegal at the federal level, so o guess technically that's true, but the federal government doesn't often enforce it and in several states it's legalized. If it ever gets legalized at the federal level and they still do hair tests instead of blood tests, though, I don't see how they can justify that.

But in reality, pretty much the only people who get punished for marijuana use are either minorities or someone being targeted for something else they did and weed is just an easy excuse to fire them, put them in for-profit prisons, murder them legally, etc.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

Umm, I don't know, probably. I'm just curious about jobs like that in another country

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

Why would that matter?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

I don’t know, I guess so? Most drug tests are severely flawed, because many don’t test if someone is under the influence right now, they can test positive even when it’s longer ago and outside of worktime.

So in essence, you can get fired for being under influence at work, even though you’re not, because these tests are not good enough. And I think that’s nuts, aside from the massive invasion of privacy of giving an employer a claim to you bodily fluids.

Sure, you’re not supposed to use drugs. But is it your employer’s task to enforce the law? No, they’re not the police, and it’s none of their business what people do at home.

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