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[โ€“] [email protected] 86 points 2 weeks ago (22 children)

There are four options for American voters: vote red, vote blue, vote third party, or don't vote at all.

Voting red is just bad. I highly doubt that the Gaza situation would get any better if Trump gets in, but I know for a fact that a lot of things will get much worse.

Voting third party is a wasted effort. Sure, every sane person would prefer different people to run America, but the the shit fptp system means they'll never get any traction. In another election voting third party could be worth it, since a third party might slowly get more support, but not this one.

Not voting is just pointless. That's just choosing to not impact anything.

That only leaves voting blue. It's not great, but it's the only option left.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Maybe this is overly wishful thinking, but I do think there is enough data analysis on how people vote that it could be real: if a large body of people with a history of voting blue vote in this election and vote blue down the ballot but omit the president, or have a third party for the president instead, then that might actually send a message to the Democrats that they are fucking up their candidate selection badly, and make them at least marginally more likely to cater to the left when choosing candidates in the future.

That said I am not sure I can condone this tactic in good faith in this particular election given the alternative, but part of me feels like the right will perpetually have more and more abhorrent alternatives and there needs to be a line somewhere, and if it's not at genocide then I honestly don't know where it is.

No matter how you look at it all the options are bad. At least Tim being slightly left of Kamala shows Democrats slightly more willing to negotiate with disenfranchised left voters than chasing nebulous farther right independents. Not left enough to condemn genocide though so a very minor distinction

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