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Exactly. I work in AI (although not the LLM kind, just applying smaller computer vision models), and my belief is that AI can be a great liberator for humanity if we have the right political and economic apparatus. The question is what that apparatus is. Some will say it's an inherent feature of capitalism, but that's not terribly specific, nor does it explain the relatively high wealth equality that existed briefly during the middle of the 20th century in America. I think some historical context is important here.
Historical Precedent
During the Industrial Revolution, we had an unprecedented growth in average labor productivity due to automation. From a naïve perspective, we might expect increasing labor productivity to result in improved quality of life and less working hours. I.e., the spoils of that productivity being felt by all.
But what we saw instead was the workers lived in squalor and abject poverty, while the mega-rich captured those productivity gains and became stupidly wealthy.
Many people at the time took note of this and sought to answer this question: why, in an era over greater-than-ever labor productivity, is there still so much poverty? Clearly all that extra wealth is going somewhere, and if it's not going to the working class, then it's evidently going to the top.
One economist and philosopher, Henry George, wrote a book exploring this very question, Progress and Poverty. His answer, in short, was rent-seeking:
Rent-seeking takes many forms. To list a few examples:
George's argument, essentially, was that the privatization of the economic rents borne of god-given things — be it land, minerals, or ideas — allowed the rich and powerful to extract all that new wealth and funnel it into their own portfolios. George was not the only one to blame these factors as the primary drivers of sky-high inequality; Nobel-prize winning economist Joseph Stiglitz has stated:
George's proposed remedies were a series of taxes and reforms to return the economic rents of those god-given things to society at large. These include:
such as in the Norwegian model:
Present Day
Okay, so that's enough about the past. What about now?
Well, monopolization of land and housing via the housing crisis has done tremendous harm:
And that is just one form of rent-seeking. Imagine the collective toll of externalities (e.g., the climate crisis), monopolistic/oligopolistic markets such as energy and communications, monopolization of valuable intellectual property, etc.
So I would tend to say that — unless we change our policies to eliminate the housing crisis, properly price in externalities, eliminate monopolies, encourage the growth of free and open IP (e.g., free and open-source software, open research, etc.), and provide critical public goods/services such as healthcare and education and public transit — we are on a trajectory for AI to be Gilded Age 2: Electric Boogaloo. AI merely represents yet another source of productivity growth, and its economic spoils will continue to be captured by the already-wealthy.
I say this as someone who works as an AI and machine learning research engineer: AI alone will not fix our problems; it must be paired with major policy reform so that the economic spoils of progress are felt by all, not just the rich.
Joseph Stiglitz, in the same essay I referred to earlier, has this to say:
Dude seek help. If you truly “work in AI” your post was such slop that it was 100% written by a LLM. If you’re going to propagandize, do it well. BRB regurgitating my scraped wall of text from Wikipedia combined with some vague leftist concepts to sound educated and progressive (when I’m really not.) lmao
Well that was uncalled for and needlessly rude. This is the kind of behavior I wish we had left on reddit.
I add in quotes because, in my experience, the vast majority of people don't click on external links. When I put in the relevant bits as quotes, people are more likely to read them. Plus, anyone can mask any statement beyind a generic-looking link; including the relevant quote makes it harder to intentionally misrepresent the content of the source.
Edit: Georgism is not even leftist, so to say I'm trying to sound vaguely leftist is simply incorrect.
“We.” Who? “Lemmy”? It’s a federated collection of various instances.
I’m not being rude lol. I’m pointing out that your post was pure propaganda that stems from either unbridled optimism that is questionable, or from advocating for your career. It’s just transparent and deserved a call out, lmao. Hence my point about being good at propaganda, if it’s obvious it’s just annoying.
In what world is "dude seek help" not rude? Plus, you directly called me uneducated and not progressive, so not sure how that's a polite thing to say either.
Beyond that, is no one ever allowed to advocate for their own political and economic views without it being "propaganda"? I feel I was pretty clear that I was giving my perspective, and I was backing it up with relevant links and quotes for anyone wanting to know more. If you want to look through my post and comment history, I'm sure you'll be able to quickly tell that these are my sincerely-held beliefs, and that I spend a lot of time thinking about these things.
And by "we", I mean we the people on lemmy, where "lemmy" refers to the collective network of instances on which we all post and comment and interact with each other.