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Interesting! But it doesn't surprise me
Yep, this is where I get all sciency and use my Arizer XQ2 to measure the quality of new strains (as well as determine if they are indeed a sativa leaning or indica leaning hybrid based on the temps and vapor production). Basically I'll preheat the device at a desired temp for 20+ minutes, load the device with a measured dose of herb using my Mighty Scoop-n-tamp and then set fan speed to low and slowly fill a balloon. I then hold the herb up to the light and view the opacity of the vapor cloud in the bag.
The more opaque, the higher the concentration of active compounds at that temp and thus the higher quality of the herb.
Low grade strains might produce minimal vapor or a mildly opaque balloon, while some top tier strains will fill the bag completely opaque with milky vapor on a single scoop of herb.
Like I said, I also test at different temps with fresh loads of herb to test the strain and see how much vapor it produces at lower temps verses higher temps (if it's there's minimal vapor at lower temps but significantly more at higher temps, than it's likely an indica or cbd leaning strain)
Was just looking at the xq2 yesterday. I love my air max but the limited battery life is starting to become a challenge for all day vaping.was comparing between the arizer starter desktop and the xq2. I think I should just spring for the xq2. Can you share how you feel about it?
So, funny story. A long time years ago someone gave me some of their old junk they didnt want to bring with them when moving out of state but didn't want to throw away. Among these things were 2 vaporizers. I didn't know how they worked and the pieces were really screwed up/put together wrong so the box sat in my closet for all this time. This conversation reminded me of the vaporizers so I dug them out this week. As it turns out, I have in my possession two fully functional extremeQs. A lot of pieces are missing can't use the baloons but I managed to unfuck the whip pieces i had into a like new state and one of the chambers still had a screen. Just took my first bowl from one! Fantastic! I am so happy arizer still sells accessories for these I can order some parts I need and salvage these perfectly good vaporizers.
Woot! That's awesome, the Arizer extremeQ is one hell of a nice vaporizer. I actually use mine for conducting testing on strains - I preheat the vaporizer at a desired temperature for 20 minutes, the load a measured dose, and then slowly fill a balloon with vapor. Then I hold the vapor up to a light source and observe the opacity of the vapor. The more milky white, the higher the quality of herb at that temperature (so if I'm testing low temps, and try cooking a top-shelf indica, of course it won't produce much vapor at very low temps compared to high temps, but a high grade sativa would).
This lets me determine the quality of the herb, as well as what type of strain it is (if it's a hybrid, I can determine if it's sativa-leaning or indica-leaning based on vapor production.
Few pro tips from a seasoned EQ expert:
PREHEAT!!! Some people buy mods to get the herb closer to the heater port. But instead the real secret is to just turn on your device for 30 minutes before loading and using it. This will let the glass oven fully "heat-soak" before use. This yields more optimal efficient extraction
Try the nugget method - instead of grinding, break off a tiny nugget and toss it in the oven. Take a few puffs, then stir to break up the nugget and "Refresh" the flavor - this lets you flavor-chase throughout the whole session.
Try the elbow-pack method. Some people like to stuff the tiny "elbow" screen (the one that holds back the herb) full with herb - this seems to yield a good extraction. But I'm not too impressed, although some people swear by it lol.
Filling balloons with vapor? Check out the Camelbak Silicone "Bite-Valves" - the cheap silicone ones slide right over the mouthpiece of the balloons and traps the vapor - to get vapor you simply "bite" on the mouthpiece to open so you can suck out the vapor.
Keep in mind that 100% complete extraction (at one set temperature) results in 100% uniform color across every flake of herb in the oven. (the specific shade of brown varies depending on temp used) - just know that is what to look for. Not everyone wants to achieve 100% complete extraction (others dump/refill when they've extracted about 70-75% ish of the herb), but that's a key to remember.
Let me know if you need any more help with that device!
As always you are fantastic @Delta3DStudios thank you so much!!
I was wondering some things: What is a good temp range with these? I have been using the method you suggested for my max pro of starting at 300, letting it preheat a bit, taking a few good hits and bumping the temp +20f every few minutes until 385f daytime or 430f evening.
With this desktop I'm not really getting any vapor until I hit around 400f and the device can go up to 500f. Do you have any suggestions for the temps I should be using/avoiding?
The preheat thing for desktop is my biggest issue right now. Even just loading the herb and waiting for it to vaporize can take 3-5 minutes, which is a big difference from the comparatively instant smoke im use to with air max and plain old combustion. Plus preferably a 30 min preheat for best heat extraction? I will have to learn to have a little patience. Maybe get my first wake and bake done with air max while its preheating
Should I have whip inserted while its preheating? What is minimum time for preheat in your opinion?
Your mighty scoop tool is looking real useful now :-)
What is difference between old cyclone bowls I have and new connaseur bowls?
Finally,would it be okay to email you? Not sure how Lemmy PMS work.
Thanks again! You are awesome!