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“BD” refers to Franco-Belgian comics, but let's open things up to include ALL Euro comics and GN's. Euro-style work from around the world is also welcome!

* BD = "Bandes dessinées"
* BDT = Bedetheque
* GN = graphic novel
* LBK = Lambiek
* LC = "Ligne claire"

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So for me, as I stumble and bumble my way through learning French (mostly through DuoLingo, hey), I'm often thinking about this issue.

Now-- on the surface of things, Modern English is almost exclusively comprised of German & French, and almost every word in these sentences are specific examples of such in terms of direct etymology. Which is a big part of why I've typically regarded French & German as my sibling languages. It's a nice, bright thought, anyway!

Let's take the modern English word "fight"-- WP claims:

From Middle English fighten, from Old English feohtan (“to fight, combat, strive”), from Proto-West Germanic *fehtan, from Proto-Germanic *fehtaną (“to comb, tease, shear, struggle with”), from Proto-Indo-European *peḱ- (“to comb, shear”).

My point is that there's so many ways to run with that over time... in any language whatsoever! Indeed, IIRC there was a "fisten" variation which meant an entirely different thing in earlier German.

But, "shear?" Yes, yes back in my schoolyard days, I wanted to shear my opponent like a little lost lamb, but... I don't think that's right.

So here's my point, assuming you've lasted this far. Modern German in fact split from modern English maybe around ~~800AD? And Modern French, around... perhaps slightly earlier than the Norman Conquest (1066), meaning that even though Modern English is absolutely PACKED full of French & German pronyms, we can't just assume they mean the same thing, anymore, as with the examples above.

It sort of breaks my heart, but it's just reality, non?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (3 children)

What a gorgeous mess! I sincerely don’t understand those who wish everyone would speak the same language. The language diversity means so many ways of seeing the world.

Hey Johnny, I thought you were a native French speaker for some reason! 😮 Must be your passion for bandes dessinées. So what’s your mother tongue? English? (Mine is French from Québec by the way.)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Must be your passion for bandes dessinées.

Exactly.
My mother-tongue is officially Castellano, followed by French.

Unfortunately, as a Peace-Corps baby and child of divorce, I never really had a chance to 'lock-in' my first two languages.

But also, just-- I absolutely adore BD, followed by Euro comics. And French is the language of BD, so... you know... let Mohammed get his arse over to the Mountain, given a choice.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

My mother-tongue is officially Castellano,

I didn't know, are you already on [email protected] ?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

I am NOW.

Which reminds me-- I've fucked-up all the links, didn't I?