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[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Well not quite that either. I don't know how to pack this up into a tidy analogy, but the issue is that some of these communication platforms have been designed in such a way that no record of the content can be accessed by a third party.

So maybe it's more like, "Please give me a transcript of the keynote speech at your murderer's convention," and replying, "Sorry I don't have a transcript." And then the government further saying, "Well then you need to let us install bugs in all your rooms," and you, the host of many different conventions reply, "No. Privacy is part of the service." I have now belabored this analogy to death. You're welcome.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

It's a twofold issue. One is that Telegram is operating an encrypted messaging platform that violates French law. That's where I disagree with French law, messages should be allowed to be encrypted and the government shouldn't be allowed to interfere with it.

The other issue is the public communications that take place on Telegram that are facilitating horrible stuff like CSAM, animal abuse, and terrorism. This is well documented and I've seen two articles about Telegram's horrible uses just today (see my comment for the other): https://dubvee.org/post/1782604

Telegram could provide a large majority of the communications. There are public channels and groups that anyone can view, a Telegram account isn't needed. Even Telegram calls itself a "social media app" so it's disingenuous to describe all of its communications as private. The issue is that they choose not to cooperate with governments, which violates the law. This is where I have a problem with Telegram. They should help law enforcement if they have access to the messages.

I say all this as an avid Telegram user. I really wish they would just encrypt all communications and force people to seek things out instead of allowing the horrible stuff to be publicly broadcast. That's what Signal does. The real question is, why doesn't Telegram?