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Pavel Durov's arrest suggests that the law enforcement dragnet is being widened from private financial transactions to private speech.

The arrest of the Telegram CEO Pavel Durov in France this week is extremely significant. It confirms that we are deep into the second crypto war, where governments are systematically seeking to prosecute developers of digital encryption tools because encryption frustrates state surveillance and control. While the first crypto war in the 1990s was led by the United States, this one is led jointly by the European Union — now its own regulatory superpower.

Durov, a former Russian, now French citizen, was arrested in Paris on Saturday, and has now been indicted. You can read the French accusations here. They include complicity in drug possession and sale, fraud, child pornography and money laundering. These are extremely serious crimes — but note that the charge is complicity, not participation. The meaning of that word “complicity” seems to be revealed by the last three charges: Telegram has been providing users a “cryptology tool” unauthorised by French regulators.

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[–] possiblylinux127 16 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Other encrypted platforms: we have no data so we can't turn over data

Telegram: we collect it all. No you can't know who is posting child abuse content

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Wait, telegram has collected it, knows about and, ultimately condones it? Or is it more of a wilful ignorance and resistance to forced compliance?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

It's definitely not willfully ignorance given they collect the data.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's clearly wrong. Matrix does have non-encrypted channels and honestly most of publicly accessible channels are non-encrypted. Do you consider matrix also on the Dame "bucket" as telegram? In matrix you can created encrypted channels but they work very badly in terms of performance with huge number of people like 1000+