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[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Considering that it's the FDP, they're probably primarily doing it to protect corporate interests, not the rights of the general population.

What kind of world do we want to live in? What would be the safest theoretical thing? They can't assign one police officer per citizen, as they don't have enough police officers. So that's a big resource constraint. But they will soon have the tech to videotape and audiotape every single cititzen using small insect-like drones that are almost impossible to find. And before that happens, they want to know who everyone online is, what they're doing and what they've done in the past, present and future. They want to know what sites you visited, who you've spoken to, what you've spoken about, and so on. And after they know this in the online world, they want to know it in the offline world too (using cameras with mics and person detection capabilities). How far will they go with their securtiy madness? It won't be long until the average citizen has zero (not just a little, zero) privacy, neither online nor offline, probably not even on the toilet or in the bed. And like I said, if you want the ultimate security, you need to assign one small surveillance drone per citizen for a complete 100% surveillance everywhere and all of the time. If you don't care about privacy and only care about security, that is your end goal. Is that really the world you want to live in?