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Comparison left vs right for a craftsman who doesnt know which one he should buy:

  • l/r same bed size

  • r lower bed for way easier loading/unloading

  • r less likely to crash

  • r less fuel consumption and costs

  • r less expensive to repair

  • r easy to park

  • r easy to get around in narrow places like crowded construction sites or towns

  • r not participating in road arms race

  • l You get taken serious by your fellow carbrained americans because ""trucks"" are normalized and small handy cars are ridiculed.

So unless you are a fragile piece of human, choose the right one.

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[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That doesn't even make sense in the logic you've presented. Shareholders want to maximize value, which means selling more things to consumers, which means selling things consumers want.

If your entire worldview falls apart at the slightest scrutiny, it may be time to re-evaluate said worldview.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When you consider that marketing is intended to manipulate consumers into thinking they want your product, it's more about convincing people that your product has value, and that they need it, rather than selling something that consumers actually need.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You are not the arbiter on what people "need," and people do not only purchase or consume things based on "need." As a hilariously easy example, neither of us "needs" to be here right now having this conversation.

Again, it's time to re-evaluate the entire worldview

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I never claimed to be the arbiter of what people need, but im just saying consumers dont have as much freewill as they claim when they're actively being manipulated at every corner. Marketing is literally intended to make you feel like you need a product you didn't previously want.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Consumers absolutely have free will. Do you have free will? You're not unique.

Also that is not the purpose of marketing. Marketing is designed to A) raise awareness of a product and B) show how the product is superior to other products.

Throw out the brain rot my dude.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I didn't say they had no freewill, i said.

Consumers do not have as much freewill as they claim

And no, that is exactly the purpose of marketing, as defined in my college marketing classes. Marketing is designed to "Create value" for a product to a consumer. That is to say, make them feel like they want to buy it. And as far as tactics, its all manipulation.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There is a no percent chance you got a good grade in that class of you don't understand the concept of creating value

Gonna go ahead and assume that was an undergrad class

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Look up manufactured scarcity. Great way to make money for shareholders without providing more to consumers. You charge them more for less. Notice any of that recently? Notice any record breaking profits in any industries?

I'll also give you another example of capitalists not giving a fuck about what consumers want: electric cars back in the 1990s. The auto manufacturers realized they would lose their parts and repair businesses, as electric vehicles have fewer moving parts, the oil companies got pissed, so they put some power together and used the federal government to overturn californias electric car act that consumers voted for. The also forcefully recalled electric cars from consumers can crushed therm.

Your logic that capitalists only do what consumers want is whats basic and flawed. If thats true, WTF is advertising? You think it's just a fun hobby that doesn't work? If advertising doesn't create false demand, why do it? We have evidence advertising creates demand, therefore advertising works, therefore you need to adjust your worldview to allow for the fact that some amount of the shit that consumers buy is nothing more than light brainwashing. Including you dear.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

The difference is that efficient demand incentivizes h switchover. You're blaming businesses for... Not leading with changes their customers don't want