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    [–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    From an outsiders perspective, a lot of the "politics" seemed to be that Rust devs would try to change behavior they saw as bugs and Linus would have to be like: "it doesn't matter, we don't break userspace functionality with changes we make to the kernel! [not a direct quote, but a paraphrase]"

    Devs not wanting to learn Rust is something I'm not at all equipped to comment on since I don't know C or Rust (some C++, python, Powershell and a few other scripting languages though) so I can't say how difficult that transition would be, but at the very least it seems like they must not be convinced of its need.

    Anyone with more knowledge able to chime in on if it seems this is a self induced problem on their end or genuinely something the other kernel devs are being difficult to work with?

    ETA: My memory of this seems to be completely incorrect! Sorry for the misinformation!

    [–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    Do you have an example where Rust devs wanted to break backwards compatibility? The complaints I've seen were mostly "I don't want to learn another language, so your Rust stuff will be broken by us"

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    A quick search and I'm not able to find anything, so either I'm not using the right search terms or I'm completely off the mark and am mixing up my Tovald Rants.

    If I mixed that up, I'm so sorry for spreading FUD!

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    There was a rant like that but directed at a specific developer that was pushing a userspace breaking change. It was not related to a Rust.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

    Thanks! I know I've seen more than and I thought a couple had been about Rust, for some reason!

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