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Incase anyone tells you that lemmy.ml is not a tankie instance.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (49 children)

lol before I realized what ml meant I made a comment that I thought that communism had never happened yet on earth but that it could one day. You wouldn’t believe the rage and attack from dozens of people who were inconsolable.

They also got mad when I said that there are only a few actual leftists in government in the US. Turns out that everyone is one, dontchano

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

…what does the ml stand for?

[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Marxism Leninism

They are the original Lemmy devs which is why I joined there. Horrible mistake, reactionary idiots who project their insecurity on others while thinking that they are the only ones who figured out the secret sauce. Pretty much exactly sovereign citizen level quackery.

look up the word “tankies” to get an idea

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago
[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

To be fair, how do westerners not treat capitalism and democracy with exactly the same weight? I think both sides would have good reason to argue that neither side has figured out the secret sauce as you say.

Not a huge stretch to think both the US and Russia treat their citizens poorly, and neither is a model for the rest of the world.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Because while both are shit, under capitalism I can at least say it's shit without fear of incarceration or reeducation.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago

Russia is also capitalist, and I think you meant to say "democracy" instead of "capitalism" there since authoritarian capitalism is definitely a thing (see Russia and China).

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

Unless you're a whistleblower

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

What has capitalism got to do with freedom of speech?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What does Stalin have to do with freedom of speech, because tankies support authocrats and dictators worldwide, but especially are fans of Stalin.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

What you talking about bossman?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You know the answer to this question. The person you are replying to mentions the system of government of countries doing capitalism. No need to be so pedantic.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think the pedantry is warranted. A lot of people like to conflate capitalism and democracy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Alot of people also confuse freedom with capitalism and democracy. The propaganda runs deep

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Area code for Mali… and I assume shorthand for Marxist Leninist.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago
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