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Team Spirit went 6-0 in the group stage, in a group that had Liquid and Aurora (both of whom made the upper bracket).
Then they lost 2-0 to Nouns.
Can someone explain to me how that happened???
Turns out NA Dota is supreme, just as we all expected.
More seriously, they got outdrafted and choked on execution twice. Didn't pull I'll off Tinker well, severely underestimated Luna. Gave Nouns everything they wanted in game 2 after losing to those heroes game 1.
I think Nouns are a bit underrated. They seem to be beating teams in their own division, but not only that; they also took a game off Falcons and another off Zero (another team that's a bit underestimated as well in my opinion).
Good for them! I really would love to see a resurgence in other Dota regions - while I'm a big fan of WEU dota, this level of dominance is just not good for the game.
Having seen Nouns vs GG, I'm now even more confused about them. Especially after the promising game one. Just inexplicable drafting and poor execution, game 2 was bad enough but game 3 was a legit humiliation.
I think that series was more about whether GG showed up than anything else. Nouns played well, and showed that they can be top teams if those teams don't play at their best. But when they do, they still get outplayed. Gaimin showed a lot more discipline and respect in game 2 to even up the series, and then it seemed like they broke them in game 3.
Nouns are still a good team, and I think with experience, they can continue to improve and place well in tournaments. Fly looks like he's doing a good job captaining them, and they are playing very well as a unit (which is what I think plagued NA teams the most historically). But still, they have a lot of work to do before they can beat the best teams in the world (assuming they give them the respect they deserve).
Maybe, yeah. I'm wary though after game two and three. If it was only a case of choking on execution and being mechanically outplayed by a by all accounts superior team then that's one thing, that happens. Drafting weirdly and poorly when you have to perform doesn't inspire confidence in me. We'll see if they can rally for the lower bracket.
Don't know if Team Zero is that underrated, did you watch the series versus Aurora? That game 3 was an absolute clown fiesta.
Otherwise I agree, it's always better for Dota when there are strong teams from all regions. Feels like we've been lacking a strong NA team ever since what, the heights of EG back with ppd and Fear?